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The article isn't about taking the train instead of the car, but about taking the train instead of the airplane. Taking the airplane is way cheaper and more con

by twiss 7y ago

The article isn't about taking the train instead of the car, but about taking the train instead of the airplane. Taking the airplane is way cheaper and more convenient than taking the train at the distances the article is talking about.

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klmr 7y ago
Flying is cheaper and faster, but not necessarily more convenient. To find cheap flights you often have to get to inconveniently located airports (the great exception being London Stansted) at odd hours, often having to change transport on the way, and lose a lot of time due to checkin and security (which are in themselves massive inconveniences). And even when paying for a better ticket the flight is often too cramped to do anything effectively. All in all, you’d often not save all that much time by flying, and the time actually spent in transit is mostly wasted, whereas a train ride affords you the opportunity to work, read or watch movies. Some people manage to read or watch movies at least on the flight itself but personally my head hits the pillow before the plane even leaves the runway. I’m not sure what soporific magic is at play here. Anyway, I avoid flying as much as possible as a consequence.
- NikkiA 7y ago
  > the great exception being London Stansted Do you mean "London City". Unless you're an incredibly rich footballer Stansted is far from convenient to anything.
  - klmr 7y ago
    I did mean Stansted but admittedly it’s probably the least convenient airport from Central London unless you live close to the Liverpool Street line — personal bias led me astray. London City is of course closer from many points within London but is much smaller. That said, London’s other airports are also relatively convenient, e.g. Gatwick and Heathrow via tube, Thameslink or dedicated trains.
lumberjack 7y ago
Flying is only cheaper if you get lucky. For example, you can pay €40 for a 3 hour international flight and then have to pay €300 for a 1 hour intranational flight. And it's not very predictable. As for convenience, if you fly budget, there's always baggage restrictions and you always have to waste 2 plus hours at the airport.

by twiss 7y ago

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klmr 7y ago

Flying is cheaper and faster, but not necessarily more convenient. To find cheap flights you often have to get to inconveniently located airports (the great exception being London Stansted) at odd hours, often having to change transport on the way, and lose a lot of time due to checkin and security (which are in themselves massive inconveniences). And even when paying for a better ticket the flight is often too cramped to do anything effectively. All in all, you’d often not save all that much time by flying, and the time actually spent in transit is mostly wasted, whereas a train ride affords you the opportunity to work, read or watch movies. Some people manage to read or watch movies at least on the flight itself but personally my head hits the pillow before the plane even leaves the runway. I’m not sure what soporific magic is at play here. Anyway, I avoid flying as much as possible as a consequence.

NikkiA 7y ago
> the great exception being London Stansted Do you mean "London City". Unless you're an incredibly rich footballer Stansted is far from convenient to anything.
- klmr 7y ago
  I did mean Stansted but admittedly it’s probably the least convenient airport from Central London unless you live close to the Liverpool Street line — personal bias led me astray. London City is of course closer from many points within London but is much smaller. That said, London’s other airports are also relatively convenient, e.g. Gatwick and Heathrow via tube, Thameslink or dedicated trains.

lumberjack 7y ago

Flying is only cheaper if you get lucky. For example, you can pay €40 for a 3 hour international flight and then have to pay €300 for a 1 hour intranational flight. And it's not very predictable. As for convenience, if you fly budget, there's always baggage restrictions and you always have to waste 2 plus hours at the airport.