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and what about the the communities for queers and autistics on 8ch that will be lost in order to cater to your particular sense of indignation while in effect
by odessacubbage 7y ago
and what about the the communities for queers and autistics on 8ch that will be lost in order to cater to your particular sense of indignation while in effect doing virtually nothing to limit the ability of psychopathic losers to kill large numbers of people?
as an aside assigning any credibility to the motives of crazy person with no value for human life makes no more sense in the case of mass killings than it does to treat those of ted bundy or john wayne gacy or mark david chapman as credible.
- zimpenfish 7y ago> doing virtually nothing to limit the ability of psychopathic losers to kill large numbers of people Deplatforming 8chan isn't about limiting the ability of these people to kill large numbers (that would require effective gun control) - it's about removing a source of provocation, radicalisation, cheering, etc. for them both before and after.
- michannne 7y agoA message board is not a source of any of those things. 8chan does not have a super-god who removes comments they don't like, there is no inherent leaning in the structure of the website. Any platform is liable to this kind of behavior, so what exactly does this achieve? If it isn't Cloudflare, it's self-hosted. If it isn't 8chan, it's Twitter, it's Facebook. There is no shortage of places where radicals could go to let their beliefs fester. What about removing hosting for 8chan resolves anything that you've mentioned?
- mort96 7y agoWhat about those communities? I'm sure they can stay on 8chan, or find somewhere else? I'd not say the recent far-right terrorism is just from some individual psychopaths with no value for human life. There's a ton of far-right/alt-right ideas out there, on platforms like 8chan, which actively demonizes certain groups of people. It's not like these shootings are just crazy people who just want to kill people at random; they want to kill the people they see as the "enemy".
- read_if_gay_ 7y ago>What about those communities? I'm sure they can stay on 8chan, or find somewhere else? Then what’s different about extremist communities?
- mort96 7y agoI don't understand what you mean. Presumably, they will also either continue using 8chan or find somewhere else?
- read_if_gay_ 7y agoExactly.
- mort96 7y agoYou're saying that as if you have made a point, but I still don't understand what you mean. Could you explain what your actual point is?
- read_if_gay_ 7y agoWell, if far right terrorists can just stay or find another place, then how is Cloudflare’s action suppressing them? You seem to be defending their action but at the same time implying it has no effect.
- anigbrowl 7y agoWhat about them? They can move to other chans, plenty of which survive and thrive without heaps of nazis. If the owners of 8ch wanted to get rid of the nazis, then they wouldn't be coming under DDOS attack in about 5 minutes.
- bmurphy1976 7y agoThey have the choice to move elsewhere. Also 8chan can reshape itself to positively serve society if it chose to do so. The fact that these communities chose to colocate themselves with other dispicable communities is unfortunate, but they've had plenty of time to move elsewhere. They have nobody but themselves to blame for building on a poor foundation. The rest of your comment is tripe.