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Seems to me that Photoshop fakes are well handled by a sort of social whitelist. It doesn't matter what's on the picture if you can't show us who took it. The
by cjlars 7y ago
Seems to me that Photoshop fakes are well handled by a sort of social whitelist. It doesn't matter what's on the picture if you can't show us who took it.
The Weekly World News served (serves?) up that sort of nonsense for years, but for the most part the media didn't go around falling for hoaxes, whatever the source. Probably a few deepfakes will spread like wildfire on social media and then the public will start wising up to the technology.
- tasty_freeze 7y agoHow small of a percentage of people need to fall for it to tip an election? How many people need to doubt real evidence as being possibly manipulated to change a jury's conviction? As it is, there are apparently more than a million people who actually believe QAnon is real, despite the fact there is nobody willing to put their name to the source.
- jlawson 7y agoA million people 'believing' QAnon sounds like faulty extrapolation from Lizardman's Constant. https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and-reptilian-muslim-climatologists-from-mars/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and...
- gridlockd 7y agoI doubt that. Lizardpeople are absurd, even by the standards of your average conspiracy theorist. QAnon isn't. The basic premise - some 4chan shitposter happens to have Q-clearance - is entirely plausible. The fact that anyone can post anything as QAnon also gives plausible deniability for any claim that turns out false, while any claim vague enough to turn out true is taken as evidence. Conspiracy thinking is extremely widespread and many conspiracy theories are widely believed, such as the JFK assassination, the fake moon landing, or "vaccines cause autism".
- Kaiyou 7y agoWhat is the non-conspiracy explanation for the magic bullet involved in the JFK assassination? I only know the conspiracy theory that claims that the CIA accidentally shot JFK and then covered their tracks. And then the other conspiracy theory, where that wasn't an accident.
- gridlockd 7y ago> What is the non-conspiracy explanation for the magic bullet involved in the JFK assassination? I only know the conspiracy theory that claims that the CIA accidentally shot JFK and then covered their tracks. It's entirely possible that a secret service agent accidentally shot Kennedy, and they're on the record of saying so. "We don't know" is not really a conspiracy theory. "We don't know, therefore X must have done it" is a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy thinking is the tendency to make these connections.
- StellarTabi 7y agoAt this point it's no longer conspiracy theories, it's just conspiracy shower thoughts.
- Kaiyou 7y agoLast time I looked at this, the magic bullet was the official stance. When did the narrative change?
- yhamv 7y agoWell, QAnon is real, no? It's not a spirit writing those posts.
- tontonius 7y agoTo understand what makes something real, we first have to understand what makes something fake.
- rtkwe 7y agoYes sure, if we reduce 'real' to just mean it's not created ex nihilo out of the aether sure, but everything is 'real' under that definition... ultimately everything is still attributable to a human decision to kick off a process. Is QAnon actually a highly placed government official (or someone with access to information about the function and plans at a high level)? From all their big predictions so far (arrests etc) being false I think we can pretty easily conclude no.
- tasty_freeze 7y agoQAnon purports to be an important person with access to inside information. It is beyond silly that you interpreted my statement to mean that there isn't a physical person typing those posts. Are you someone who cannot resist coming up with a counter-argument no matter how thin? You might want to ponder how much value that adds to discourse in general.
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