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> we know now the Apple Card won’t play nice with a jailbroken iPhone Smells like anti-trust violation.

by shmerl 7y ago

dylz 7y ago
Virtually every banking app on Android tries to detect rooted devices as much as possible and many suspend your online banking access if they find one..
- floatingatoll 7y ago
  As do most enterprise MFA apps, unless your site admin permits jailbroken devices to enroll.
- cyphar 7y ago
  Some bank apps used to work on rooted phones, but thanks to Google SafetyNet (proprietary spyware which reports metrics about your phone to Google so they can determine whether it is "safe" for apps to run) a lot of apps that never did rooted checks have started using it. It might be possible to use XPosed to trick apps into think that the SafetyNet checks passed, but I bet they've worked hard to make that as hard as humanly possible.
  - noahster11 7y ago
    If you use Magisk, which is one of the most common ways to root nowadays, it not only roots, but allows custom software to be installed "systemlessly". This means in most cases, SafetyNet won't be able to detect a rooted phone. Just like with jailbreaking, smart people will always find a way around these barriers Apple and Google put up
    - netsharc 7y ago
      It's funny, it's basically installing a rootkit on your phone (one that you trust), it's a piece of software that has access to everything but tries to hide from detection. But yes I have it too...
  - dylz 7y ago
    Does that really work? If it was me doing this (NB: I would hate this as a user): I would retrieve the signed token from Google server-side, check whether it's true or false, and remotely lock out the account so it can't be signed in from any phone until you call customer service.
- ValentineC 7y ago
  Government apps too. I was told that jailbreak detection is a must for an app to pass certain audits.
closeparen 7y ago
Your plastic credit card also contains a general purpose computer that will respond similarly to tampering.
briandear 7y ago
I don't think you know what anti-trust violation means. You are free to sign up for a card that doesn't have anything to do with Apple. And Apple doesn't prevent you from using other cards with Apple Pay.
- shmerl 7y ago
  It's product tying (tying it to their store).

> we know now the Apple Card won’t play nice with a jailbroken iPhone Smells like anti-trust violation.

by shmerl 7y ago

> we know now the Apple Card won’t play nice with a jailbroken iPhone Smells like anti-trust violation.

dylz 7y ago

Virtually every banking app on Android tries to detect rooted devices as much as possible and many suspend your online banking access if they find one..

floatingatoll 7y ago
As do most enterprise MFA apps, unless your site admin permits jailbroken devices to enroll.
cyphar 7y ago
Some bank apps used to work on rooted phones, but thanks to Google SafetyNet (proprietary spyware which reports metrics about your phone to Google so they can determine whether it is "safe" for apps to run) a lot of apps that never did rooted checks have started using it. It might be possible to use XPosed to trick apps into think that the SafetyNet checks passed, but I bet they've worked hard to make that as hard as humanly possible.
- noahster11 7y ago
  If you use Magisk, which is one of the most common ways to root nowadays, it not only roots, but allows custom software to be installed "systemlessly". This means in most cases, SafetyNet won't be able to detect a rooted phone. Just like with jailbreaking, smart people will always find a way around these barriers Apple and Google put up
  - netsharc 7y ago
    It's funny, it's basically installing a rootkit on your phone (one that you trust), it's a piece of software that has access to everything but tries to hide from detection. But yes I have it too...
- dylz 7y ago
  Does that really work? If it was me doing this (NB: I would hate this as a user): I would retrieve the signed token from Google server-side, check whether it's true or false, and remotely lock out the account so it can't be signed in from any phone until you call customer service.
ValentineC 7y ago
Government apps too. I was told that jailbreak detection is a must for an app to pass certain audits.

closeparen 7y ago

Your plastic credit card also contains a general purpose computer that will respond similarly to tampering.

briandear 7y ago

I don't think you know what anti-trust violation means. You are free to sign up for a card that doesn't have anything to do with Apple. And Apple doesn't prevent you from using other cards with Apple Pay.

shmerl 7y ago
It's product tying (tying it to their store).