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Matthew Prince could have just said "per our terms of service we don't provide services for websites that violate US law and 8chan allows posts that in our opin

Matthew Prince could have just said "per our terms of service we don't provide services for websites that violate US law and 8chan allows posts that in our opinion incite imminent lawless action, therefore we're terminating their account". Instead he posted this confused essay that clearly shows he understands neither 8chan nor the relevant law, instead making up weird terms and making it entirely vague what their policy will be for terminating accounts in the future.

ajross 7y ago
OK, so 8chan (edit: sorry, should have written "Cloudflare") could have handled this better according to your personal sense of justice or aesthetics or whatever. And... 20 people are dead in El Paso. It's like we're not even talking about the same thing here. I just don't get your thought process, sorry. You agree that this incitement and radicalization shouldn't have had a forum, I think. You just... would rather talk about the mechanism by which the forum access was removed than the incitement and radicalization? That's really the hill you're taking your stand on?
- word-reader 7y ago
  Cloudflare is the gateway to 20% of the internet. Their CEO is harping on a vague term he calls "Rule of Law" as he capriciously and personally terminates a customer's account, demonstrating lack of knowledge of key facts in the process. That was my main topic. Reducing radicalization is obviously important but this action isn't really going to help much there anyway.
  - ajross 7y ago
    > he capriciously and personally terminates a customer's account Oh please, he gave them two (2) (fucking TWO!) mass murders of leniency before he pulled the plug on their CDN access. This was literally a three strikes policy for hate crime shooting sprees, and it's still "capricious" in your eyes? In your opinion, what should the death toll be before a CDN provider can use it as a justification for terminating service? Sorry, that's just ridiculous.
    - word-reader 7y ago
      "8chan committed mass murder" is really stretching guilt-by-association in my opinion.

ajross 7y ago

OK, so 8chan (edit: sorry, should have written "Cloudflare") could have handled this better according to your personal sense of justice or aesthetics or whatever. And... 20 people are dead in El Paso. It's like we're not even talking about the same thing here. I just don't get your thought process, sorry. You agree that this incitement and radicalization shouldn't have had a forum, I think. You just... would rather talk about the mechanism by which the forum access was removed than the incitement and radicalization? That's really the hill you're taking your stand on?

word-reader 7y ago
Cloudflare is the gateway to 20% of the internet. Their CEO is harping on a vague term he calls "Rule of Law" as he capriciously and personally terminates a customer's account, demonstrating lack of knowledge of key facts in the process. That was my main topic. Reducing radicalization is obviously important but this action isn't really going to help much there anyway.
- ajross 7y ago
  > he capriciously and personally terminates a customer's account Oh please, he gave them two (2) (fucking TWO!) mass murders of leniency before he pulled the plug on their CDN access. This was literally a three strikes policy for hate crime shooting sprees, and it's still "capricious" in your eyes? In your opinion, what should the death toll be before a CDN provider can use it as a justification for terminating service? Sorry, that's just ridiculous.
  - word-reader 7y ago
    "8chan committed mass murder" is really stretching guilt-by-association in my opinion.