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I think a point of contention over the unmoderated aspect is that compared to it's sister site 4chan which will actively coordinate with authorities and tempora

I think a point of contention over the unmoderated aspect is that compared to it's sister site 4chan which will actively coordinate with authorities and temporarily take the site down whenever evidence is being collected, 8chan appears to treat the authorities with contempt to the point of needing a search warrant. It's creator Fredrick calling for the site's shutdown was the killing strike in my opinion, though the site had /g/ establish a full Tor infrastructure years ago so it's not going to really truly die anytime soon Speaking of 4chan if I was Hiro right now I would be batting down the hatches and moving most of the moderation force to the problem boards to snipe any incoherent manifestos until this all blows over.

the8472 7y ago
Requiring a search warrant seems like due process to me, not contempt. In many other cases handing over data to law enforcement without a warrant is seen as surveillance and a breach of privacy.
mLuby 7y ago
>treat the authorities with contempt to the point of needing a search warrant Everyone must comply with lawful orders—that's the point of the law. Respect is not mandatory (so long as it doesn't interfere with lawful orders); it is earned and can be lost. If this were not true, the right to avoid self-incrimination would be meaningless.
- tomatotomato37 7y ago
  The thing is that Moot (and probably Hiro too) actively intercepts and forwards mass-shooty type stuff it to the cops instead of waiting for a warrant to avoid this exact situation. Emphasis on intercept, you can't have a media shitstorm decrying you as the axis of evil if the only thing they can find on your site is mass speculation because a mod autosaged the shooter's manifesto 3 minutes after it was posted
  - mLuby 7y ago
    Questions: 1. What is "autosaged"? UrbanDictionary was no help… ^__^; 2. By intercept do you mean "notice quickly" or "prevent from arriving/posting"?
    - tomatotomato37 7y ago
      1. Autosage is kinda equivalent to shadowbanning a thread; realistically a mod would just flat delete risky threads of this nature but I just felt like using the lingo 2. Notice quickly and take down; 4chan doesn't really have a way to prevent a post from arriving in the first place aside from simplistic text filters

the8472 7y ago

Requiring a search warrant seems like due process to me, not contempt. In many other cases handing over data to law enforcement without a warrant is seen as surveillance and a breach of privacy.

mLuby 7y ago

>treat the authorities with contempt to the point of needing a search warrant Everyone must comply with lawful orders—that's the point of the law. Respect is not mandatory (so long as it doesn't interfere with lawful orders); it is earned and can be lost. If this were not true, the right to avoid self-incrimination would be meaningless.

tomatotomato37 7y ago
The thing is that Moot (and probably Hiro too) actively intercepts and forwards mass-shooty type stuff it to the cops instead of waiting for a warrant to avoid this exact situation. Emphasis on intercept, you can't have a media shitstorm decrying you as the axis of evil if the only thing they can find on your site is mass speculation because a mod autosaged the shooter's manifesto 3 minutes after it was posted
- mLuby 7y ago
  Questions: 1. What is "autosaged"? UrbanDictionary was no help… ^__^; 2. By intercept do you mean "notice quickly" or "prevent from arriving/posting"?
  - tomatotomato37 7y ago
    1. Autosage is kinda equivalent to shadowbanning a thread; realistically a mod would just flat delete risky threads of this nature but I just felt like using the lingo 2. Notice quickly and take down; 4chan doesn't really have a way to prevent a post from arriving in the first place aside from simplistic text filters