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I thought they had just stated they weren't going to end suport: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20607945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20607945

jrockway 7y ago
People can change their minds. Looks like they did.
r721 7y ago
Thread: https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1158188641946165248 https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1158188641946165248
doctorpangloss 7y ago
Yes, but Cloudflare needs talented engineers, and talented engineers don’t sign up to serve clients like 8chan. Software doesn’t run on one person’s contrarian politics.
- ng12 7y ago
  I think you'd find a great many talented engineers don't share the same politics you do, and an even greater number who are far too apolitical for it to factor into their job search.
  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    Most of us work for whomever pays top dollar, regardless of politics.
  - zorpner 7y ago
    I think more engineers are realizing that if you've been working for Uber, Facebook, Twitter, and maybe now (or depending on how they act, maybe not) Cloudflare it severely curtails your future opportunities, both as an employee and socially.
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- xwdv 7y ago
  There is nothing inherently virtuous about talented engineers, and in fact some of the most talented engineers I’ve come across in the industry have very loose morals.
- chroma 7y ago
  Cloudflare serves many odious sites, such as https://godhatesfags.com/ https://godhatesfags.com/. They only terminate service when some site gets a lot of heat in the news. I like to think I'm a pretty talented engineer. I've avoided using Cloudflare and I've avoided applying to them because of their wishy-washy stance on censorship. They are a utility. PG&E doesn't terminate electricity service based on what was said on a property. So too should it be for data services. Otherwise, you get people lying and doing false flags to get their enemies kicked off the internet.
  - s_Hogg 7y ago
    There are already people doing that stuff. Given that's the case, why should they not act?
  - ambicapter 7y ago
    > They are a utility. They are not even close to a utility.
- betacat 7y ago
  It's unfortunately easy to find sociopathic engineers.
shakna 7y ago
They'd changed their mind by the end of the day. > Late Sunday, following hours of public criticism, Cloudflare announced a major reversal, saying 8chan had gone too far and “repeatedly proven itself to be a cesspool of hate.” Its access to Cloudflare services was scheduled to terminate at midnight Pacific time, making it more vulnerable to a potentially crippling cyberattack.
jackvalentine 7y ago
I don't know if the article was updated or what, but near the end: "Late Sunday, following hours of public criticism, Cloudflare announced a major reversal, saying 8chan had gone too far and “repeatedly proven itself to be a cesspool of hate.” Its access to Cloudflare services was scheduled to terminate at midnight Pacific time, making it more vulnerable to a potentially crippling cyberattack."
lwhalen 7y ago
Its pretty clear now what Matt Prince's word is worth.

jrockway 7y ago

People can change their minds. Looks like they did.

r721 7y ago

Thread: https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1158188641946165248 https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1158188641946165248

doctorpangloss 7y ago

Yes, but Cloudflare needs talented engineers, and talented engineers don’t sign up to serve clients like 8chan. Software doesn’t run on one person’s contrarian politics.

ng12 7y ago
I think you'd find a great many talented engineers don't share the same politics you do, and an even greater number who are far too apolitical for it to factor into their job search.
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  Most of us work for whomever pays top dollar, regardless of politics.
- zorpner 7y ago
  I think more engineers are realizing that if you've been working for Uber, Facebook, Twitter, and maybe now (or depending on how they act, maybe not) Cloudflare it severely curtails your future opportunities, both as an employee and socially.
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xwdv 7y ago
There is nothing inherently virtuous about talented engineers, and in fact some of the most talented engineers I’ve come across in the industry have very loose morals.
chroma 7y ago
Cloudflare serves many odious sites, such as https://godhatesfags.com/ https://godhatesfags.com/. They only terminate service when some site gets a lot of heat in the news. I like to think I'm a pretty talented engineer. I've avoided using Cloudflare and I've avoided applying to them because of their wishy-washy stance on censorship. They are a utility. PG&E doesn't terminate electricity service based on what was said on a property. So too should it be for data services. Otherwise, you get people lying and doing false flags to get their enemies kicked off the internet.
- s_Hogg 7y ago
  There are already people doing that stuff. Given that's the case, why should they not act?
- ambicapter 7y ago
  > They are a utility. They are not even close to a utility.
betacat 7y ago
It's unfortunately easy to find sociopathic engineers.

shakna 7y ago

They'd changed their mind by the end of the day. > Late Sunday, following hours of public criticism, Cloudflare announced a major reversal, saying 8chan had gone too far and “repeatedly proven itself to be a cesspool of hate.” Its access to Cloudflare services was scheduled to terminate at midnight Pacific time, making it more vulnerable to a potentially crippling cyberattack.

jackvalentine 7y ago

I don't know if the article was updated or what, but near the end: "Late Sunday, following hours of public criticism, Cloudflare announced a major reversal, saying 8chan had gone too far and “repeatedly proven itself to be a cesspool of hate.” Its access to Cloudflare services was scheduled to terminate at midnight Pacific time, making it more vulnerable to a potentially crippling cyberattack."

lwhalen 7y ago

Its pretty clear now what Matt Prince's word is worth.