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Marketing hogwash... Mainframe ain't dead and won't be for long... It's quite interesting how IBM plays this game underhandedly - promoting cloud while betting

Marketing hogwash... Mainframe ain't dead and won't be for long... It's quite interesting how IBM plays this game underhandedly - promoting cloud while betting strong on mainframes which ain't going anywhere. In my opinion - the cloud is on its way to a peak. I do believe that it has a place - It's just not be all end all. Cloud is the new outsorcing. Unfortunately there are only so many people who are capable of doing a competent job. And if you're not the company that attracts creme - then it doesn't really matter what kind of IT CDO you purchase - below its the same old gringos.

TomOfTTB 16y ago
Look...the author is the CEO of Box.Net which is a company whose business model is the cloud. So there's obviously a bias and I do think he's a little hyperbolic on some of his points. That said I'm someone who runs what is considered a medium sized enterprise and have been testing Box.Net for a few months now and I've been impressed. It allows me to extend file sharing beyond our network firewall without having to configure (or pay for) an expensive VPN license (I'd started moving the rest of our Intranet to EC2 in 2009). Plus it duplicates all the Sharepoint functionality that we were using. I can honestly say cloud computing has saved me from creating at least 1 new position at a savings of around $53,000 a year (that's subtracting the EC2 and Box.Net bills)
- JanezStupar 16y ago
  Duly noted - will take a look into Box.Net
vyrotek 16y ago
Agreed. Although I have an interesting perspective. I have founded a company completely hosted in the cloud and my father is a mainframe developer who has worked on airline and credit card systems. I'm in a never ending Cloud vs. Mainframe debate. With that said, I don't think the mainframe is going away anytime soon but I can see why people seem to favor the cloud. Unpredictable growth and cost doesn't fit well with the cost of a mainframe. Credit card companies and airlines KNOW they have to handle billions of transactions and investing in a very expensive piece of equipment makes sense. Thats not the case for a lot of companies though. Especially those using the SaaS model. The cloud is attractive because of the usage model. You pay for what you use. I wish there was a way to make the power of mainframes more accessible to new companies.

TomOfTTB 16y ago

Look...the author is the CEO of Box.Net which is a company whose business model is the cloud. So there's obviously a bias and I do think he's a little hyperbolic on some of his points. That said I'm someone who runs what is considered a medium sized enterprise and have been testing Box.Net for a few months now and I've been impressed. It allows me to extend file sharing beyond our network firewall without having to configure (or pay for) an expensive VPN license (I'd started moving the rest of our Intranet to EC2 in 2009). Plus it duplicates all the Sharepoint functionality that we were using. I can honestly say cloud computing has saved me from creating at least 1 new position at a savings of around $53,000 a year (that's subtracting the EC2 and Box.Net bills)

JanezStupar 16y ago
Duly noted - will take a look into Box.Net

vyrotek 16y ago

Agreed. Although I have an interesting perspective. I have founded a company completely hosted in the cloud and my father is a mainframe developer who has worked on airline and credit card systems. I'm in a never ending Cloud vs. Mainframe debate. With that said, I don't think the mainframe is going away anytime soon but I can see why people seem to favor the cloud. Unpredictable growth and cost doesn't fit well with the cost of a mainframe. Credit card companies and airlines KNOW they have to handle billions of transactions and investing in a very expensive piece of equipment makes sense. Thats not the case for a lot of companies though. Especially those using the SaaS model. The cloud is attractive because of the usage model. You pay for what you use. I wish there was a way to make the power of mainframes more accessible to new companies.