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From the article: > According to the European Court of Justice ruling, a site that embeds the Facebook “like” icon and link on its pages also sends user data t

From the article: > According to the European Court of Justice ruling, a site that embeds the Facebook “like” icon and link on its pages also sends user data to the US web giant. This is categorically false. The site that embeds the like icon is sending absolutely nothing to Facebook. The user's browser is the one sending information. You have control over your browser. You can do something about it if you don't like it. The EU's regulations infantilize the public and removes consumer choice.

icebraining 7y ago
How is it removing consumer choice to ask for their consent?
- macinjosh 7y ago
  Many sites who just don't want to deal with the regulation will simply not offer anything from a 3rd party on their site. That is least risky approach and most businesses paying attention will do that.
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  - icebraining 7y ago
    Yeah, stupid business people abound. If those offers are really interesting to the users, those sites will be replaced by better run ones, who correctly calculate the risks.
icebraining 7y ago
> The site that embeds the like icon is sending absolutely nothing to Facebook. The user's browser is the one sending information. Sites run both on the server and on the browser. Are you saying JavaScript is not part of the site?
- macinjosh 7y ago
  The execution of the Javascript does not occur on the company's resources. It occurs on the visitors computer, over their own Internet connection. Both which are in their full control.
  - icebraining 7y ago
    The sentence is still correct, not "categorically false". > Both which are in their full control. So is your car when you leave the car wash, yet if they had put something damaging in the gas tank, I'm betting you'd complain about them.
    - macinjosh 7y ago
      I'd complain. I wouldn't demand from them millions of dollars or suggest they be locked up in a cage like the EU would.
      - icebraining 7y ago
        Complaining makes sense, but when you've been doing it for twenty years (the Data Protection Directive, which prohibited many of the same behaviours but didn't impose specific penalties, is from 1995) and you see that businesses keep recklessly doing the same behaviours, you might learn what economists have been saying: they only respond to incentives, and so the EU had to set some of it wished to see its complaints taken seriously. And so the EU joined the US into fining companies a few million for privacy violations.

icebraining 7y ago

How is it removing consumer choice to ask for their consent?

macinjosh 7y ago
Many sites who just don't want to deal with the regulation will simply not offer anything from a 3rd party on their site. That is least risky approach and most businesses paying attention will do that.
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- icebraining 7y ago
  Yeah, stupid business people abound. If those offers are really interesting to the users, those sites will be replaced by better run ones, who correctly calculate the risks.

icebraining 7y ago

> The site that embeds the like icon is sending absolutely nothing to Facebook. The user's browser is the one sending information. Sites run both on the server and on the browser. Are you saying JavaScript is not part of the site?

macinjosh 7y ago
The execution of the Javascript does not occur on the company's resources. It occurs on the visitors computer, over their own Internet connection. Both which are in their full control.
- icebraining 7y ago
  The sentence is still correct, not "categorically false". > Both which are in their full control. So is your car when you leave the car wash, yet if they had put something damaging in the gas tank, I'm betting you'd complain about them.
  - macinjosh 7y ago
    I'd complain. I wouldn't demand from them millions of dollars or suggest they be locked up in a cage like the EU would.
    - icebraining 7y ago
      Complaining makes sense, but when you've been doing it for twenty years (the Data Protection Directive, which prohibited many of the same behaviours but didn't impose specific penalties, is from 1995) and you see that businesses keep recklessly doing the same behaviours, you might learn what economists have been saying: they only respond to incentives, and so the EU had to set some of it wished to see its complaints taken seriously. And so the EU joined the US into fining companies a few million for privacy violations.