> What is that "thing" that makes us determine that a language is fat or light? In the same way the word modern is thrown around in the context of languages th

> What is that "thing" that makes us determine that a language is fat or light? In the same way the word modern is thrown around in the context of languages that have evolved a bit, I think heaviness is a notion that is an indicator of how committed the person is to the tradeoffs made by the tech: a heavy language made tradeoffs erring on the side of technical debt and the light one has not. But it's easier to present one's own preferences as technical facts when trying to flame or troll. In the case of frameworks, they often make choices for you, they are opinionated. It's easier to get unhappy about it, in a bike shed sort of way