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Meaning, you took offense to it. I’m sure you’re aware that it is impossible for one to offend another human being. One has to make the choice to take offense.

by shijie 7y ago

Meaning, you took offense to it. I’m sure you’re aware that it is impossible for one to offend another human being. One has to make the choice to take offense. Which you did.

danharaj 7y ago
> I’m sure you’re aware that it is impossible for one to offend another human being. What?
- Karunamon 7y ago
  In other words, offense is taken, not given.
  - milemi 7y ago
    This is one of the dumbest lines of argument I've read here. On the level of "you can't punch a person, it's only their face that can get in the way of your fist." I'm getting all kinds of enlightened today.
    - camdenlock 7y ago
      The transfer of information (i.e. reading some text) is not the same as a punch being thrown. The punch is liable to damage your body. The information, on the other hand, has to first be processed by your brain. Because of this processing, you can even give something like this a try: simply notice and become curious about the feeling of offense that wells up inside of you, instead of allowing it to fully take you for a ride resulting in embarrassing comments on Hacker News.
    - throwaway8879 7y ago
      The stoics had a great deal to say about reacting to insults. I suggest you read Seneca or Epictetus for some perspective on taking offense.
      - milemi 7y ago
        I'm not reacting to a personal insult. I'm reacting to ageism. It's the people who are reacting back who are taking personal offense at what they perceive as an attempt to take away their freedom to casually demean people of the group they're not (yet) a part of.
    - keymone 7y ago
      No, it’s literally true. For different people in different contexts “you’re an idiot” can be both offensive and not. Even Intention to offend doesn’t matter in the slightest. For instance if I don’t care about somebody’s opinion, his statement that I’m an idiot is simply ignored. Offense is taken, not given.
      - milemi 7y ago
        That's assuming you have a choice to not be affected by someone's opinion. If there was a pervasive culture of people posting articles on HN casually assuming that you're an idiot you'd find it much harder to ignore. And if people on hiring committees, in fact just one person on each hiring committee, absorbed this by simply not having time and effort to expend to mentally challenge that assumption, you're pretty screwed, all philosophical arguments aside. Assuming you have to work for a living.

by shijie 7y ago

Meaning, you took offense to it. I’m sure you’re aware that it is impossible for one to offend another human being. One has to make the choice to take offense. Which you did.

danharaj 7y ago

> I’m sure you’re aware that it is impossible for one to offend another human being. What?

Karunamon 7y ago
In other words, offense is taken, not given.
- milemi 7y ago
  This is one of the dumbest lines of argument I've read here. On the level of "you can't punch a person, it's only their face that can get in the way of your fist." I'm getting all kinds of enlightened today.
  - camdenlock 7y ago
    The transfer of information (i.e. reading some text) is not the same as a punch being thrown. The punch is liable to damage your body. The information, on the other hand, has to first be processed by your brain. Because of this processing, you can even give something like this a try: simply notice and become curious about the feeling of offense that wells up inside of you, instead of allowing it to fully take you for a ride resulting in embarrassing comments on Hacker News.
  - throwaway8879 7y ago
    The stoics had a great deal to say about reacting to insults. I suggest you read Seneca or Epictetus for some perspective on taking offense.
    - milemi 7y ago
      I'm not reacting to a personal insult. I'm reacting to ageism. It's the people who are reacting back who are taking personal offense at what they perceive as an attempt to take away their freedom to casually demean people of the group they're not (yet) a part of.
  - keymone 7y ago
    No, it’s literally true. For different people in different contexts “you’re an idiot” can be both offensive and not. Even Intention to offend doesn’t matter in the slightest. For instance if I don’t care about somebody’s opinion, his statement that I’m an idiot is simply ignored. Offense is taken, not given.
    - milemi 7y ago
      That's assuming you have a choice to not be affected by someone's opinion. If there was a pervasive culture of people posting articles on HN casually assuming that you're an idiot you'd find it much harder to ignore. And if people on hiring committees, in fact just one person on each hiring committee, absorbed this by simply not having time and effort to expend to mentally challenge that assumption, you're pretty screwed, all philosophical arguments aside. Assuming you have to work for a living.