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Even brazilian breath oxygen. What "suffering" has the rest of the world done to brazil ?

sprafa 7y ago
Clearly you’re not a student of Brazilian history. Until 1988 Brasil lived under a CIA supported military dictatorship. I’m sure there are more examples of brutal Us intervention (same as there are in all of Latin America) but that’s the biggest one. Also look at this map https://medium.com/@indica/climate-winners-and-losers-in-two-maps-c89f17ef0a80?fbclid=IwAR1gff7oAyfhnAsgYPTBgojZJoH7mz0WHsEtxVul2zbwqFyt9ix7C3ZSN0c https://medium.com/@indica/climate-winners-and-losers-in-two... Brasil who is not one of the top contributors to climate change will be one of the most affected countries. Now they want to chop their forests for productive activities and they’re being climateblamed for first world activists. What I say to that - clean up your own house first. If you really want the amazon protected, pay for it by taxing your own carbon emissions. Brasil is going to suffer from your climate change activities, so it deserves compensation. TLDR- Brasil is getting fucked by climate change. So the answer to this idiot idea that Brasil should be paying for the world’s sin is - no, fuck you back. You want to absolve yourself of your sins, pay up.
- boudewijnrempt 7y ago
  But Brazil also fucking itself... Talk about biting your head off to spite your nose.
  - sprafa 7y ago
    I won’t disagree with you there. Even this recent election of the neofascist Bolsonaro was essentially a self destructive act, very much grounded in identify politics (particularly anti-homosexual).
    - andrenth 7y ago
      No, it was a reaction to the previous years of corruption and economic destruction.
      - sprafa 7y ago
        Meh. Are you Brazilian or just a news reader?
        andrenth 7y ago
        I am Brazilian.
        rbanffy 7y ago
        Isn't it great to know corruption has ended completely now that the previous party was removed?
        andrenth 7y ago
        What’s your point? A corrupt party was removed by peoples’ votes. It’s how democracy works. Eventually people notice the stealing. Did I say that ended corruption? No, I said he won because people were tired of the previous party corrupt ways. That’s hardly controversial.
        rbanffy 7y ago
        A "corrupt" party that could, but didn't, interfere with the largest corruption probe in Brazilian history was removed in a coup, replaced by a vice president from the party most involved in corruption scandals, allowing a farcical, inquisitorial investigation to jail a former president on thin "evidence" so that a neonazi (with a long history of low-level corruption and close ties with organized crime) could win an election... Yeah... That'll work...
        marcio_rf 7y ago
zekrioca 7y ago
I will give you one example: 338 years of forced slavery.
- meristem 7y ago
  Colonialism/Mercantilism by: Portugal, England, U.S.

Clearly you’re not a student of Brazilian history. Until 1988 Brasil lived under a CIA supported military dictatorship. I’m sure there are more examples of brutal Us intervention (same as there are in all of Latin America) but that’s the biggest one. Also look at this map https://medium.com/@indica/climate-winners-and-losers-in-two-maps-c89f17ef0a80?fbclid=IwAR1gff7oAyfhnAsgYPTBgojZJoH7mz0WHsEtxVul2zbwqFyt9ix7C3ZSN0c https://medium.com/@indica/climate-winners-and-losers-in-two... Brasil who is not one of the top contributors to climate change will be one of the most affected countries. Now they want to chop their forests for productive activities and they’re being climateblamed for first world activists. What I say to that - clean up your own house first. If you really want the amazon protected, pay for it by taxing your own carbon emissions. Brasil is going to suffer from your climate change activities, so it deserves compensation. TLDR- Brasil is getting fucked by climate change. So the answer to this idiot idea that Brasil should be paying for the world’s sin is - no, fuck you back. You want to absolve yourself of your sins, pay up.

boudewijnrempt 7y ago
But Brazil also fucking itself... Talk about biting your head off to spite your nose.
- sprafa 7y ago
  I won’t disagree with you there. Even this recent election of the neofascist Bolsonaro was essentially a self destructive act, very much grounded in identify politics (particularly anti-homosexual).
  - andrenth 7y ago
    No, it was a reaction to the previous years of corruption and economic destruction.
    - sprafa 7y ago
      Meh. Are you Brazilian or just a news reader?
      - andrenth 7y ago
        I am Brazilian.
        rbanffy 7y ago
        Isn't it great to know corruption has ended completely now that the previous party was removed?
        andrenth 7y ago
        What’s your point? A corrupt party was removed by peoples’ votes. It’s how democracy works. Eventually people notice the stealing. Did I say that ended corruption? No, I said he won because people were tired of the previous party corrupt ways. That’s hardly controversial.
        rbanffy 7y ago
        A "corrupt" party that could, but didn't, interfere with the largest corruption probe in Brazilian history was removed in a coup, replaced by a vice president from the party most involved in corruption scandals, allowing a farcical, inquisitorial investigation to jail a former president on thin "evidence" so that a neonazi (with a long history of low-level corruption and close ties with organized crime) could win an election... Yeah... That'll work...
        marcio_rf 7y ago

zekrioca 7y ago

I will give you one example: 338 years of forced slavery.

meristem 7y ago
Colonialism/Mercantilism by: Portugal, England, U.S.