> I think the simple answer to this is one that people on hn just don't like: most users like some js. Js enables better experiences (for most people) than just

> I think the simple answer to this is one that people on hn just don't like: most users like some js. Js enables better experiences (for most people) than just html and css. You sound as if "most people", aka non-technical users, are like kids who like shiny things and cannot appreciate clean and elegant design. You create that audience for yourself, that way.