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There should be just one public transport world-wide app to which local regulators can plugin their markets. Just like there is a global banking system, which a

There should be just one public transport world-wide app to which local regulators can plugin their markets. Just like there is a global banking system, which allows people to send money across borders.

iamben 7y ago
I don't mind many apps - perhaps that's even a good thing, I can choose the one with the UX that works best for me - but they all need to work from the same system. The app I use has a chance to get any taxi from all the connected systems.
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  There should be many apps, and there should be many services, and apps and services should be separate markets. This way you could choose the UX that works for you and use it to consume services you want. IMO, a situation in which you're e.g. forced to use Uber only through Uber's app should not be allowed.
  - iamben 7y ago
    Yes, exactly this. I'd like the same with TV and film as well!
  - 18pfsmt 7y ago
    One thing I've noticed over the years, is your propensity toward forcing other people toward your preference using the government. You are welcome to that view in your country (i.e. European), but that is so anti-American and illiberal that it's simplly not a universal truth. All countries do not need to operate in the same command-and-control way. We need diversity in governance. The USA is not some 'blood and soil' country with a history of aristocracy. We subsidize the national defense and drug R&D costs of your entire continent. Freedom lovers of all ethnicities recognize America's unique nature as the sole proponent of freedom, and they flock here.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      > One thing I've noticed over the years, is your propensity toward forcing other people toward your preference using the government. In my defense, it does not come from some innate desire to boss people around. The reason I mention governments often is simple: in a problem of prisonner's dilemma nature (so-called "coordination problem"), where a bunch of actors make rational decisions in their short-term interest at the detriment of everyone's long-term interest, the only way to force coordination and realize the long-term benefits is to have an external party enforcing the coordination, by penalizing the choice of short-term benefits. You'll observe that a lot of problems in the society have this nature, and usually the solution is government or other body that can set the rules recognized by all involved parties (and dispense punishments for breaking them). This is the classical solution to prisonner's dilemma (a mob boss punishing snitches), overfishing (regulatory body dispensing quotas), etc. It's not about what's European or American. It's about effective solutions to problems. In our times, we know enough about the dynamics of people interacting with each other at scale to recognize some common failure modes, like coordination problems, and ways to solve them.
      - 18pfsmt 7y ago
        >It's not about what's European or American. In fact, it is. We have very different ideas about how to achieve outcomes (i.e. Old World vs. New World) we commonly share as goals. I absolutely disagree that "the solution is government." Europe hasn't achieved GDP growth over 1% for 20 years, and one has to wonder if it's because they over tax their middle class. I do not discount your sovereignty, only your right to assert it over our sovereignty. One size does not fit all, and many Americans are being fooled by the subsidies others receive. I appreciate your civility, and contributions to HN over the years, but also recognize the unAmerican nature of your ideas. What concerns me is that your ideas are infecting our young people. I recommend Democracy in America written by Tocqueville in ~1840. It's available for free on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America
        TeMPOraL 7y ago
viraptor 7y ago
We've got SWIFT, SEPA, CIPS, whatever Iran ends up using, whatever Russia may come up with (extended NSPK?), WorldRemit, ... It's not all great and unified yet.
- polskibus 7y ago
  If there was a public transport system with SWIFT coverage, I believe most ppl would be happy. Part of the fragmentation comes from sanctions - this would affect any international system, either established by a company or an international regulation. Getting banned from several such systems is a good reason to play by the rules and not get sanctions.

iamben 7y ago

I don't mind many apps - perhaps that's even a good thing, I can choose the one with the UX that works best for me - but they all need to work from the same system. The app I use has a chance to get any taxi from all the connected systems.

TeMPOraL 7y ago
There should be many apps, and there should be many services, and apps and services should be separate markets. This way you could choose the UX that works for you and use it to consume services you want. IMO, a situation in which you're e.g. forced to use Uber only through Uber's app should not be allowed.
- iamben 7y ago
  Yes, exactly this. I'd like the same with TV and film as well!
- 18pfsmt 7y ago
  One thing I've noticed over the years, is your propensity toward forcing other people toward your preference using the government. You are welcome to that view in your country (i.e. European), but that is so anti-American and illiberal that it's simplly not a universal truth. All countries do not need to operate in the same command-and-control way. We need diversity in governance. The USA is not some 'blood and soil' country with a history of aristocracy. We subsidize the national defense and drug R&D costs of your entire continent. Freedom lovers of all ethnicities recognize America's unique nature as the sole proponent of freedom, and they flock here.
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    > One thing I've noticed over the years, is your propensity toward forcing other people toward your preference using the government. In my defense, it does not come from some innate desire to boss people around. The reason I mention governments often is simple: in a problem of prisonner's dilemma nature (so-called "coordination problem"), where a bunch of actors make rational decisions in their short-term interest at the detriment of everyone's long-term interest, the only way to force coordination and realize the long-term benefits is to have an external party enforcing the coordination, by penalizing the choice of short-term benefits. You'll observe that a lot of problems in the society have this nature, and usually the solution is government or other body that can set the rules recognized by all involved parties (and dispense punishments for breaking them). This is the classical solution to prisonner's dilemma (a mob boss punishing snitches), overfishing (regulatory body dispensing quotas), etc. It's not about what's European or American. It's about effective solutions to problems. In our times, we know enough about the dynamics of people interacting with each other at scale to recognize some common failure modes, like coordination problems, and ways to solve them.
    - 18pfsmt 7y ago
      >It's not about what's European or American. In fact, it is. We have very different ideas about how to achieve outcomes (i.e. Old World vs. New World) we commonly share as goals. I absolutely disagree that "the solution is government." Europe hasn't achieved GDP growth over 1% for 20 years, and one has to wonder if it's because they over tax their middle class. I do not discount your sovereignty, only your right to assert it over our sovereignty. One size does not fit all, and many Americans are being fooled by the subsidies others receive. I appreciate your civility, and contributions to HN over the years, but also recognize the unAmerican nature of your ideas. What concerns me is that your ideas are infecting our young people. I recommend Democracy in America written by Tocqueville in ~1840. It's available for free on the internet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago

viraptor 7y ago

We've got SWIFT, SEPA, CIPS, whatever Iran ends up using, whatever Russia may come up with (extended NSPK?), WorldRemit, ... It's not all great and unified yet.

polskibus 7y ago
If there was a public transport system with SWIFT coverage, I believe most ppl would be happy. Part of the fragmentation comes from sanctions - this would affect any international system, either established by a company or an international regulation. Getting banned from several such systems is a good reason to play by the rules and not get sanctions.