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The problem though is that numbers aren't really the salient characteristic here. If some gang kills 5 members of another gang, that's not really a "mass killin
by darawk 7y ago
The problem though is that numbers aren't really the salient characteristic here. If some gang kills 5 members of another gang, that's not really a "mass killing" in the sense that this El Paso thing was.
- Barrin92 7y agoNot ideologically, but very much in the sense that the state has lost control of ensuring the safety of its citizens, which is what it boils down to at the end of the day. There are very straight-forward steps to be taken to reduce both gang violence and the fanatic mass shootings, and they're not being pursued.
- darawk 7y agoYa sorry. They are definitely in certain senses the same thing. But in others they're not. I think when thinking about causes the random killings are important to consider as a group though.
- watwut 7y agoAfaik, most of those are domestic situations.