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One feels compelled to point out that, despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes and threats or m
by Causality1 7y ago
One feels compelled to point out that, despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes and threats or manifestos containing identifying information are forwarded to the authorities, with at least one known incident being prevented by them, a planned shooting at Bethel Park High School.
Which, frankly, is the surprising part since I don't know why any sane person would set foot there. I visited once a few weeks after its founding and it had already degenerated to the point most regular users probably deserve to be on some kind of government list. Going there is just asking for trouble and I would urge anyone curious to look for screenshots instead of actually visiting the website.
- m0ck 7y agoYou need to make a distinction between 8chan as a website and /pol/ board. Imageboards are just places for unmoderated and free discussions, the topics are up to users (especially on 8chan, where they can even create their own boards, which is not possible on 4chan). Most of the discussions there are innocent in nature, it's always the same few boards which create shit like this.
- kevingadd 7y agoYeah, and part of the problem is that policy allows the bad boards to stick around so they multiply. In practice the bad policy means it doesn't matter how many good boards there are because there's a board next door hosting child porn or something.
- m0ck 7y agoThis is a way more complicated topic than it sounds. If there was a board dedicated to planning and carrying out mass shootings, or other violent acts, I'm sure it would get deleted rather quickly. But when the topic of a board is "discussion of politics", it isn't illegal in nature. It's the same reason why Reddit administrators hasn't deleted /r/the_donald yet, despite many of it's users breaking Reddit rules. It's hard to draw the line where it's acceptable to ban a whole community with "safe topic", because majority of posters are breaking the rules / law.
- kartan 7y ago> despite 8chan being a breeding ground of hate, threads by mass shooters are typically removed in minutes So, it is ok that people promote and help mass shooters as far as there is no direct connection the day of the attack? > Going there is just asking for trouble and I would urge anyone curious to look for screenshots instead of actually visiting the website. Is a screenshot of hate speech promoting hate less than a rendered HTML page? I will imagine that an Islamic extremist site will be closed within minutes of gaining notoriety. Why are we sparing white-nationalist propaganda?
- dx87 7y agoYou'd be imagining wrong. Cloudflare left up ISIS websites because they said it isn't their job police content.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 7y agoYou know, I don’t necessarily disagree with Cloudlare’s take on “we shouldn’t be the internet police”, but do find it kind of funny that their ideology and approach conveniently aligns with being the absolute cheapest and laziest approach to the problem.
- cbHXBY1D 7y agoWhich is every corporations modus operandi.
- Causality1 7y agoOh, I'm not saying find a screenshot because it encourages them less, I'm saying find a screenshot because if you go there you risk being mentally scarred, to say nothing if someone sees it in your internet history or you're dumb enough to visit it on a corporate network or work laptop/phone. That would be a well-deserved firing, if not for being a racist then for being a moron. >Why are we sparing white-nationalist propaganda? Racist propaganda doesn't violate anyone's rights and is hence protected speech. Imminent threats and specific calls to violence are a different matter.