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There is no way the average lifespan is only 100-200 miles. That would make the cost per mile 2-3 dollars which is completely unrealistic.

cameldrv 7y ago
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-scooter-last-less-than-a-month-louisville-data-suggests/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-... “The average vehicle went 163.2 miles over 92 trips during its lifetime” https://www.theinformation.com/articles/hit-by-big-loss-bird-seeks-300m-in-new-funds https://www.theinformation.com/articles/hit-by-big-loss-bird... They lost $100 million on 40 million in revenue.
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meesles 7y ago
No, because you're assuming a zero-sum game or even profits. It's widely known that these e-scooter companies are eating a ton of losses right now as they figure things out.
ceejayoz 7y ago
> That would make the cost per mile 2-3 dollars which is completely unrealistic. That's why you spend billions of dollars of VC money.
munificent 7y ago
I don't know about scooters, but I'm in a city with a lot of Lime bikes. I spent a few weeks commuting to work using them and each day was a roll of the dice to see if the bike I got was going to be functional. I don't know what's wrong with some people but apparently "drive it like you stole it" also applies to "rented it". Based on how a lot of those bikes look—and this is while Lime is actively maintaining and culling the fleet and—it seems many users end their ride by leaping off the bikes in mid sprint and letting it crash into whatever, sometimes punctuated with an angry kick or maybe smearing a little dirt and food into the seat and basket. It's completely careless use that raises the ecological and economic price of these ride shares. If people were less shitty, they'd be way better in every respect.
executive 7y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbOvFt_Gwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbOvFt_Gwo
mc32 7y ago
There’ve been some studies that align with the statement by OP [1]. Looks like lifecycle of the studied fleet was under 200 miles and fewer than 30 days. People really mistreat them and beat them up. [1]https://qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-scooter-last-less-than-a-month-louisville-data-suggests/ https://qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-scooter-last-less-tha...
aussiegreenie 7y ago
Most rental electric scooters are VERY abused. One Chinese bike rental company lost its entire fleet in about a week, 10,000 bikes lost in less than 10 days.

cameldrv 7y ago

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-scooter-last-less-than-a-month-louisville-data-suggests/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-... “The average vehicle went 163.2 miles over 92 trips during its lifetime” https://www.theinformation.com/articles/hit-by-big-loss-bird-seeks-300m-in-new-funds https://www.theinformation.com/articles/hit-by-big-loss-bird... They lost $100 million on 40 million in revenue.

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meesles 7y ago

No, because you're assuming a zero-sum game or even profits. It's widely known that these e-scooter companies are eating a ton of losses right now as they figure things out.

ceejayoz 7y ago

> That would make the cost per mile 2-3 dollars which is completely unrealistic. That's why you spend billions of dollars of VC money.

munificent 7y ago

I don't know about scooters, but I'm in a city with a lot of Lime bikes. I spent a few weeks commuting to work using them and each day was a roll of the dice to see if the bike I got was going to be functional. I don't know what's wrong with some people but apparently "drive it like you stole it" also applies to "rented it". Based on how a lot of those bikes look—and this is while Lime is actively maintaining and culling the fleet and—it seems many users end their ride by leaping off the bikes in mid sprint and letting it crash into whatever, sometimes punctuated with an angry kick or maybe smearing a little dirt and food into the seat and basket. It's completely careless use that raises the ecological and economic price of these ride shares. If people were less shitty, they'd be way better in every respect.

executive 7y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbOvFt_Gwo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbOvFt_Gwo

mc32 7y ago

There’ve been some studies that align with the statement by OP [1]. Looks like lifecycle of the studied fleet was under 200 miles and fewer than 30 days. People really mistreat them and beat them up. [1]https://qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-scooter-last-less-than-a-month-louisville-data-suggests/ https://qz.com/1561654/how-long-does-a-scooter-last-less-tha...

aussiegreenie 7y ago

Most rental electric scooters are VERY abused. One Chinese bike rental company lost its entire fleet in about a week, 10,000 bikes lost in less than 10 days.