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Ok, so it's like any other decades old piece of machinery. That doesn't mean it's impossible to run. I get that it's no 5-star hotel but it seems perfectly se

Ok, so it's like any other decades old piece of machinery. That doesn't mean it's impossible to run. I get that it's no 5-star hotel but it seems perfectly serviceable to me. The entire world is mostly like this. New and simple parts that go together easily are luxuries of trades school and high margin industries.

dredmorbius 7y ago
Busted mower in your suburban backyard 15 minutes from the big box and a failed main prop seal or incinerator fire 13,000 miles from home port in heavy pack ice are not directly comparable. Some endeavours warrant high capitalisation and well-within-service-life equipment.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  I'm talking industrial machinery, like stuff in paper mills and manufacturing facilities where downtime is highly uneconomical. A lot of times that stuff gets run long beyond its useful life because new machinery cannot be rationalized for a variety of reasons beyond the scope of this comment. You can do it and still have an overall reliable operation. You just can't make assumptions about your equipment running perfectly all the time when you plan out the policies and procedures for the rest of your operation. Sure, you'll have people like the author, the person I'm replying to and you who will be complaining their butts off about clapped out equipment every step of the way but if your operation is designed to roll with the punches then at the end of the day you'll be 99% as capable as the people with new equipment who rely on that instead of being able to roll with it and fix things fast. Take your assumptions and gate-keeping and shove them somewhere unpleasant.
  - dredmorbius 7y ago
    Again: the middle, or extreme edge, of an ocean is a desolately lonely place. Lives, not merely money, hang in the balance.
  - lovich 7y ago
    >Sure, you'll have people like the author, the person I'm replying to and you who will be complaining their butts off about clapped out equipment every step of the way but if your operation is designed to roll with the punches then at the end of the day you'll be 99% as capable as the people with new equipment who rely on that instead of being able to roll with it and fix things fast. Must like in software, the people doing the work and the people who choose what work is done and with what budget are almost separate circles on a Venn diagram. Please, as a wise man once said, take your assumptions and gate-keeping and shove them somewhere unpleasant.

dredmorbius 7y ago

Busted mower in your suburban backyard 15 minutes from the big box and a failed main prop seal or incinerator fire 13,000 miles from home port in heavy pack ice are not directly comparable. Some endeavours warrant high capitalisation and well-within-service-life equipment.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
I'm talking industrial machinery, like stuff in paper mills and manufacturing facilities where downtime is highly uneconomical. A lot of times that stuff gets run long beyond its useful life because new machinery cannot be rationalized for a variety of reasons beyond the scope of this comment. You can do it and still have an overall reliable operation. You just can't make assumptions about your equipment running perfectly all the time when you plan out the policies and procedures for the rest of your operation. Sure, you'll have people like the author, the person I'm replying to and you who will be complaining their butts off about clapped out equipment every step of the way but if your operation is designed to roll with the punches then at the end of the day you'll be 99% as capable as the people with new equipment who rely on that instead of being able to roll with it and fix things fast. Take your assumptions and gate-keeping and shove them somewhere unpleasant.
- dredmorbius 7y ago
  Again: the middle, or extreme edge, of an ocean is a desolately lonely place. Lives, not merely money, hang in the balance.
- lovich 7y ago
  >Sure, you'll have people like the author, the person I'm replying to and you who will be complaining their butts off about clapped out equipment every step of the way but if your operation is designed to roll with the punches then at the end of the day you'll be 99% as capable as the people with new equipment who rely on that instead of being able to roll with it and fix things fast. Must like in software, the people doing the work and the people who choose what work is done and with what budget are almost separate circles on a Venn diagram. Please, as a wise man once said, take your assumptions and gate-keeping and shove them somewhere unpleasant.