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Can you give me a high level overview of what your motivation is for destroying AMP? I'm not trying to troll. I really would like to know.

buboard 7y ago
I don't, but i am asking how it can be done. I see it increasingly more online and i wonder if one day it will seize the entire web. If it can't be stopped, that's a problem
- krapp 7y ago
  >I see it increasingly more online and i wonder if one day it will seize the entire web. If it can't be stopped, that's a problem How would it be unstoppable? Google isn't a government. They don't own or control the web, nor do they have the force of law or men with guns pointed at web developers, forcing them to use AMP. It's no more likely to "seize the entire web" than ActiveX or Silverlight.
  - buboard 7y ago
    > They don't own or control the web, Really? name a long tail website that doesn't SEO for google
    - krapp 7y ago
      Not every site on the web is a business that's concerned with SEO... and claiming that Google controls the visibility of online businesses is not a claim that they control the web. And they don't even really control the visibility of online businesses, so much as have outsized influence over it. It's possible to run a business and not be the first search result on Google, and other search engines do exist, as well as other venues for advertisement and promotion.
      - buboard 7y ago
        you didn't name one though
        krapp 7y ago
        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Don't need to, and don't care to.
- lonelappde 7y ago
  Do you want to kill JavaScript too? It also took over the web.
  - zzzcpan 7y ago
    Who doesn't want to kill that security, privacy, performance nightmare?
    - krapp 7y ago
      Most people, actually.
  - buboard 7y ago
    Javascript is an open technology. AMP is open only in theory
- jonas21 7y ago
  So, if I understand correctly, you want to destroy something, but have no reason other than that someday it may become too popular?
  - buboard 7y ago
    Yes, like how i want to destroy Ebola
donohoe 7y ago
Start here: http://ampletter.org/ http://ampletter.org/
donohoe 7y ago
This is a relevant overview http://ampletter.org/ http://ampletter.org/
jotm 7y ago
Well, I'd like to see it gone for the simple reason that many sites and blogs (especially those run by not very webtech inclined people) are using it simply because they saw somewhere that it "increases page load speed", and "that's important". It's not important, 2 or even 5 more seconds of load speed is irrelevant (and you probably don't want the visitors who can't wait 5 seconds anyway) for good content, and you lose most of your control over your own stuff. Stop playing into the hands of Google, Facebook, Microsoft, et al

buboard 7y ago

I don't, but i am asking how it can be done. I see it increasingly more online and i wonder if one day it will seize the entire web. If it can't be stopped, that's a problem

krapp 7y ago
>I see it increasingly more online and i wonder if one day it will seize the entire web. If it can't be stopped, that's a problem How would it be unstoppable? Google isn't a government. They don't own or control the web, nor do they have the force of law or men with guns pointed at web developers, forcing them to use AMP. It's no more likely to "seize the entire web" than ActiveX or Silverlight.
- buboard 7y ago
  > They don't own or control the web, Really? name a long tail website that doesn't SEO for google
  - krapp 7y ago
    Not every site on the web is a business that's concerned with SEO... and claiming that Google controls the visibility of online businesses is not a claim that they control the web. And they don't even really control the visibility of online businesses, so much as have outsized influence over it. It's possible to run a business and not be the first search result on Google, and other search engines do exist, as well as other venues for advertisement and promotion.
    - buboard 7y ago
      you didn't name one though
      - krapp 7y ago
        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Don't need to, and don't care to.
lonelappde 7y ago
Do you want to kill JavaScript too? It also took over the web.
- zzzcpan 7y ago
  Who doesn't want to kill that security, privacy, performance nightmare?
  - krapp 7y ago
    Most people, actually.
- buboard 7y ago
  Javascript is an open technology. AMP is open only in theory
jonas21 7y ago
So, if I understand correctly, you want to destroy something, but have no reason other than that someday it may become too popular?
- buboard 7y ago
  Yes, like how i want to destroy Ebola

donohoe 7y ago

Start here: http://ampletter.org/ http://ampletter.org/

donohoe 7y ago

This is a relevant overview http://ampletter.org/ http://ampletter.org/

jotm 7y ago

Well, I'd like to see it gone for the simple reason that many sites and blogs (especially those run by not very webtech inclined people) are using it simply because they saw somewhere that it "increases page load speed", and "that's important". It's not important, 2 or even 5 more seconds of load speed is irrelevant (and you probably don't want the visitors who can't wait 5 seconds anyway) for good content, and you lose most of your control over your own stuff. Stop playing into the hands of Google, Facebook, Microsoft, et al