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Based on the short literature research I did that's visible in my other comment, I came to some rough ideas on how to make a good sleep tracker. If there are pe
by mettamage 7y ago
Based on the short literature research I did that's visible in my other comment, I came to some rough ideas on how to make a good sleep tracker. If there are people who want to work on it, feel free to reach out. Creating this as a side project might be something I was going to do anyway to learn about data science and some simple hardware hacking. It's currently 2nd on the list (only beaten by the 1st thing: prepping for interviews).
What I think that technically needs to happen at minimum is:
1. Movement
2. HRV
3. EEG (brainwaves)
That will be the minimum viable product that may become as good as polysomnography and bring sleep lab tech to your home. Dreem claims to be doing this, but it isn't clear whether their claims are true.
Companies like Zeo produced presumably good results, yet they are now bankrupt. It's quite infuriating to see. So there's a business model (or simply an organizational problem at Zeo at the time) and I'm not clear what it is. The tech is already here! For example, Somté PSG shows that it can be done, and I'm simply thinking to myself: this could be more user friendly, couldn't it? [1]
Marketing-wise, I think the following needs to happen:
1. Get multiple unrelated universities to test your device against polysomnography and iterate against it.
2. Once it's within the 90% agreement range, then even make a YouTube video about such tests. Keep testing it against the golden standard, because if you are as good as the golden standard, then you can really state you track sleep.
3. Also test different PSGs with each other, because while PSG is the golden standard, no study told to what extent they actually agree on sleep metrics. There probably are studies on it but they didn't test this (or comment on it even, I believe) when wearables such as a Fitbit were studied as well.
4. Make ridiculous cool claims like everyone is already doing. Really go for the full appeal to authority, like Dreem is doing (nothing new).
[1] https://www.compumedics.com.au/products/somte-psg/ https://www.compumedics.com.au/products/somte-psg/
- jobigoud 7y agoI have a watch-like thingy that tracks my pulse and give interesting data about sleep patterns but every time I sleep with it I am self conscious about it. It emits light to track the pulse and it's annoying to have something at my wrist. I can't imagine having a headset and sleeping as I normally sleep. The results wouldn't be fully representative.
- mettamage 7y agoI've noticed I'd become used to it. I've gotten used to a sleeping mask and earplugs in a similar way (they really help me). I've noticed I don't have issues wearing something around my wrist, but I get that that's a factor. I'm also noticing that I don't get anxious about the data, because it's all a bit guesswork anyway, so I guess I'd want to see an aggregate form of data if it gets more precise, so that it still feels a bit like guesswork, unless there's something wrong in a big way.