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Dayton OH tried this crap with Persistent Surveillance Systems equipment that's basically a time machine: a high altitude camera that photographs the whole city

Dayton OH tried this crap with Persistent Surveillance Systems equipment that's basically a time machine: a high altitude camera that photographs the whole city and lets you follow a vehicle forward or backward in time, inferring meeting places, routes, etc. The outcry that arose cancelled the project. So yes, protest works! https://www.acluohio.org/archives/issue-information/warrantless-aerial-surveillance-in-dayton https://www.acluohio.org/archives/issue-information/warrantl... The one over Baltimore is JLENS by Raytheon: that didn't get struck down because it was never put to a vote; it was privately funded. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/15/baltimore-surveillance-john-laura-arnold-billionaires https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/15/baltimore-surv... https://technical.ly/baltimore/2015/08/19/another-surveillance-blimp-launches-over-baltimore-jlens-aberdeen/ https://technical.ly/baltimore/2015/08/19/another-surveillan...

jcims 7y ago
There’s an excellent RadioLab episode about Persistent Surveillance. The anti-crime powers it brings to a city are compelling, only overshadowed by the powers for abuse. Worth a listen IMHO: https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/eye-sky https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/eye-sky
- eddyg 7y ago
  Being able to back-track in time after a violent crime has been committed is a fantastic application of this technology.
  - noir_lord 7y ago
    Being able to back-track in time after a (legal) protest has been committed is a horrific application of this technology. This is one of those "We should discuss the upside/downside before doing it" subjects. I mean if you want to radically increase safety, just shove everyone into an 8'x12' padded box.
aero142 7y ago
The tech here is so good I don’t believe it went away. I just think it will exist in secret and only used when they really need to. We will get a snowden style leak about it in 10 years.

jcims 7y ago

There’s an excellent RadioLab episode about Persistent Surveillance. The anti-crime powers it brings to a city are compelling, only overshadowed by the powers for abuse. Worth a listen IMHO: https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/eye-sky https://www.wnycstudios.org/story/eye-sky

eddyg 7y ago
Being able to back-track in time after a violent crime has been committed is a fantastic application of this technology.
- noir_lord 7y ago
  Being able to back-track in time after a (legal) protest has been committed is a horrific application of this technology. This is one of those "We should discuss the upside/downside before doing it" subjects. I mean if you want to radically increase safety, just shove everyone into an 8'x12' padded box.

aero142 7y ago

The tech here is so good I don’t believe it went away. I just think it will exist in secret and only used when they really need to. We will get a snowden style leak about it in 10 years.