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Or something else causes both healthy people and living near trees.

by tunesmith 7y ago

Symmetry 7y ago
The obvious one being wealthy people -> wealthy community | | v v good health trees
- arnonejoe 7y ago
  This is true. Leafy neighborhoods also tend to be wealthy enclaves.
- dahfizz 7y ago
  It's usually much cheaper to live outside of a city than inside.
- learc83 7y ago
  The article says they controlled for income.
  - jdietrich 7y ago
    That's not the same as controlling for socio-economic status. A millennial living in a city-center apartment and a boomer living in a paid-up house in the suburbs might have the same income, but they have very different life circumstances and experience very different levels of stress.
    - learc83 7y ago
      They also controlled for "age, sex, annual household income, economic status (eg, employed, retired, or unemployed), highest educational qualification, and couple status". Taken together those are likely to capture socio-economic status in all but a few edge cases. With a very large study size, and a huge result (30% difference) it's unlikely that it can be explained by socioeconomic status. The study discusses this by the way.
      - jdietrich 7y ago
        >Taken together those are likely to capture socio-economic status in all but a few edge cases. Socio-economic status is notoriously difficult to control for. https://academic.oup.com/bmb/article/81-82/1/21/282643 https://academic.oup.com/bmb/article/81-82/1/21/282643
        learc83 7y ago
        If this were a small study or found a small result, then edge cases like lower income millennials with no degree who live in inherited houses in wealthy areas with trees might skew the results. If you disagree with the studies methodology fine, but I'm satisfied that authors have done their due diligence with respect to socio-economic status.
        6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
        The authors, at least in OP, use "associated with" language.
- tomatotomato37 7y ago
  The problem with that is tree coverage drastically goes up again when you hit "broken washing machine on lawn" levels of poverty due to just the general amount of old growth in rural poor areas

Or something else causes both healthy people and living near trees.

Symmetry 7y ago

The obvious one being wealthy people -> wealthy community | | v v good health trees

arnonejoe 7y ago
This is true. Leafy neighborhoods also tend to be wealthy enclaves.
dahfizz 7y ago
It's usually much cheaper to live outside of a city than inside.
learc83 7y ago
The article says they controlled for income.
- jdietrich 7y ago
  That's not the same as controlling for socio-economic status. A millennial living in a city-center apartment and a boomer living in a paid-up house in the suburbs might have the same income, but they have very different life circumstances and experience very different levels of stress.
  - learc83 7y ago
    They also controlled for "age, sex, annual household income, economic status (eg, employed, retired, or unemployed), highest educational qualification, and couple status". Taken together those are likely to capture socio-economic status in all but a few edge cases. With a very large study size, and a huge result (30% difference) it's unlikely that it can be explained by socioeconomic status. The study discusses this by the way.
    - jdietrich 7y ago
      >Taken together those are likely to capture socio-economic status in all but a few edge cases. Socio-economic status is notoriously difficult to control for. https://academic.oup.com/bmb/article/81-82/1/21/282643 https://academic.oup.com/bmb/article/81-82/1/21/282643
      - learc83 7y ago
        If this were a small study or found a small result, then edge cases like lower income millennials with no degree who live in inherited houses in wealthy areas with trees might skew the results. If you disagree with the studies methodology fine, but I'm satisfied that authors have done their due diligence with respect to socio-economic status.
        6gvONxR4sf7o 7y ago
        The authors, at least in OP, use "associated with" language.
tomatotomato37 7y ago
The problem with that is tree coverage drastically goes up again when you hit "broken washing machine on lawn" levels of poverty due to just the general amount of old growth in rural poor areas