This doubly goes for ops guys (who used to be called sysadmins but now are all kinds of fad of the moment names, I still like sysadmin but I notice many devs an

This doubly goes for ops guys (who used to be called sysadmins but now are all kinds of fad of the moment names, I still like sysadmin but I notice many devs and CS tend to look down on it... but I digress) IAC and other newer tech has largely shifted the perception about sysamin'ing and has caused a huge swath of people who haven't been keeping up to have to turn to plan B. Even when you see a Linux admin or engineer pos they often really mean SRE or something else.