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I can't imagine this helped with Hemingway's late (and justified) paranoia.

rolltiide 7y ago
I always find the posthumous vindication of Hemingway to be interesting because people want to say justified paranoia, or ironically accurate paranoia But shouldn’t we just change the word to describe Hemingway? Paranoia means unjustified suspicion/distrust and encroaches on mental health issues. It should say people thought he was paranoid about a thing that turned out to be true. So in reality Hemingway was suspicious of shitty spies.
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- vile_wretch 7y ago
  Right, yeah I agree paranoia isn't the right word. I don't know what the right word would be though. While he must have been aware of being monitored by his government, I suspect it would still have come off as paranoia to the people who knew him or knew of him, justified or not.
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > Right, yeah I agree paranoia isn't the right word. I don't know what the right word would be though. The word for thing that is like paranoia but instead of being irrational and pathological its entirely rational and grounded in fact? "Justified concern"?
- Camillo 7y ago
  I agree, it was not paranoia. Hemingway was recruited by the KGB and was eager to offer his services. The only reason he didn't last long as a Russian agent is that they ended up not finding him very useful. [1] He thought the FBI was following him because he knew they had good reasons to. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/jul/09/hemingway-failed-kgb-spy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/jul/09/hemingway-fail...
java-man 7y ago
Hemingway was being followed by the FBI: https://www.history101.com/hemingway-fbi-declassified/ https://www.history101.com/hemingway-fbi-declassified/
- itcheeze 7y ago
  Wow. I read a biography on Hemingway a while ago and don't remember it talking about any of this.
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I always find the posthumous vindication of Hemingway to be interesting because people want to say justified paranoia, or ironically accurate paranoia But shouldn’t we just change the word to describe Hemingway? Paranoia means unjustified suspicion/distrust and encroaches on mental health issues. It should say people thought he was paranoid about a thing that turned out to be true. So in reality Hemingway was suspicious of shitty spies.

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vile_wretch 7y ago
Right, yeah I agree paranoia isn't the right word. I don't know what the right word would be though. While he must have been aware of being monitored by his government, I suspect it would still have come off as paranoia to the people who knew him or knew of him, justified or not.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Right, yeah I agree paranoia isn't the right word. I don't know what the right word would be though. The word for thing that is like paranoia but instead of being irrational and pathological its entirely rational and grounded in fact? "Justified concern"?
Camillo 7y ago
I agree, it was not paranoia. Hemingway was recruited by the KGB and was eager to offer his services. The only reason he didn't last long as a Russian agent is that they ended up not finding him very useful. [1] He thought the FBI was following him because he knew they had good reasons to. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/jul/09/hemingway-failed-kgb-spy https://www.theguardian.com/books/2009/jul/09/hemingway-fail...

java-man 7y ago

Hemingway was being followed by the FBI: https://www.history101.com/hemingway-fbi-declassified/ https://www.history101.com/hemingway-fbi-declassified/

itcheeze 7y ago
Wow. I read a biography on Hemingway a while ago and don't remember it talking about any of this.

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