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> The thing I do not agree is that you have to pay for tools in order to be a professional. Absolutely not! You don't have to pay, and there's tons of free to

by Lazare 7y ago

> The thing I do not agree is that you have to pay for tools in order to be a professional. Absolutely not! You don't have to pay, and there's tons of free tools which are top rate. What I said is that if you're a professional, you're able to pay for the tools that are worth it. If Phpstorm is worth it (and I think it is, but many devs I respect feel otherwise), $200 is deeply affordable by Western standards. As a professional, you should have a budget for things like software licenses, books, donations to open source projects you really like, etc., whether that comes out of your funds as a consultant, or team's budget, etc. If your employer is too stingy to cover things like Phpstorm licenses...they're not treating you like a professional. (Again, in first world/Western countries. Budgets and pay scales are different in some places!)

gchamonlive 7y ago
> If you can't find $200 for a tool to help you do your job, you're not really a professional. I am sorry if I misinterpreted you, but that was precisely what you said. Elaborating, I agree with you, reinvestment is really important to improve work and product quality.
- Lazare 7y ago
  > I am sorry if I misinterpreted you, but that was precisely what you said. If you have the money to spend on tools, but think Linux or VS Code is best, that's fine. If OS X would be better for you, but you use Linux because you can't afford the tools you need, that's a problem. Being able to find the money for something doesn't mean you have to spend the money. At the price point of a few hundred dollars a year or less, my concern is what's best, not what's cheapest. The company I work for will happily buy a Phpstorm license for any dev who wants one, but some are happy with VS Code, and one holdout is still using NetBeans. Nothing wrong with that!
  - mcny 7y ago
    I can't even convince IT to put an SSD or increase my RAM from 8GB to 16 on this workstation. There's a process that I tried to go through and later my boss said they spent two hours on the phone with IT but it went nowhere so I asked my boss to not waste any more time on this nonsense. I can't imagine having to justify a subscription to IntelliJ at this workplace. At least I imagine you can bring your own license to Jetbrains on a work computer here, at least that is my understanding and I won't ask anyone lest they say I am wrong!
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by Lazare 7y ago

gchamonlive 7y ago

> If you can't find $200 for a tool to help you do your job, you're not really a professional. I am sorry if I misinterpreted you, but that was precisely what you said. Elaborating, I agree with you, reinvestment is really important to improve work and product quality.

Lazare 7y ago
> I am sorry if I misinterpreted you, but that was precisely what you said. If you have the money to spend on tools, but think Linux or VS Code is best, that's fine. If OS X would be better for you, but you use Linux because you can't afford the tools you need, that's a problem. Being able to find the money for something doesn't mean you have to spend the money. At the price point of a few hundred dollars a year or less, my concern is what's best, not what's cheapest. The company I work for will happily buy a Phpstorm license for any dev who wants one, but some are happy with VS Code, and one holdout is still using NetBeans. Nothing wrong with that!
- mcny 7y ago
  I can't even convince IT to put an SSD or increase my RAM from 8GB to 16 on this workstation. There's a process that I tried to go through and later my boss said they spent two hours on the phone with IT but it went nowhere so I asked my boss to not waste any more time on this nonsense. I can't imagine having to justify a subscription to IntelliJ at this workplace. At least I imagine you can bring your own license to Jetbrains on a work computer here, at least that is my understanding and I won't ask anyone lest they say I am wrong!
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