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prohibitively expensive? I think you haven't thought this through. Already Chairs, Desk and Rent for every engineer is more expensive than 200 USD every year.

prohibitively expensive? I think you haven't thought this through. Already Chairs, Desk and Rent for every engineer is more expensive than 200 USD every year. Their salary is many hundred times 200 USD. I pay more for coffee and water that they can get for free every year. Independent devs without income can get PHPStorm at much lower rates.

gchamonlive 7y ago
can you tell me how independent devs can access PHPStorm at lower rates? I would love to stop using VSCode. 200USD might be ok for you, but over 800 reais for an IDE is not something I can pay. Notebooks in Brazil are almost three times as expensive as abroad, internet costs are through the roof here as well as living costs... I thought this through, I just have a harder reality than you I guess
- beberlei 7y ago
  You can get a free license if you are part of an open-source project: https://www.jetbrains.com/opensource/ https://www.jetbrains.com/opensource/ And if you are an individual, the license is just 89 USD. If you are an individual contractor, then maybe you quality for a startup discount? This also gives you 50%: https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#personal?billing=yearly https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#personal?billing=yea...
  - gchamonlive 7y ago
    I completely missed the `For individuals` tab...
  - Ayesh 7y ago
    I can also suggest you to approach JetBrains people if you see them in at a conference. They sponsor many PHP conferences, and open source maintainers (don't have to Linus) can request or open-source license. They also have an Early Access Program that you try out beta releases, and they are free of cost.
- ryanianian 7y ago
  JetBrains has a handful of ways that can significantly reduce or eliminate license fees for their products https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#discounts https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#discounts
- edgarvaldes 7y ago
  >can you tell me how independent devs can access PHPStorm at lower rates? Individual license starts at $89, and fall to $71 in the first renewal, then to $53 onwards. So I think it is not that expensive. YMMV.
  - joe5150 7y ago
    you also get a perpetual license if you pay for a year upfront or 12 consecutive months of your subscription, so you can stop paying and keep using the version you paid for forever
tasuki 7y ago
> Already Chairs, Desk and Rent for every engineer is more expensive than 200 USD every year. In my part of the world it is, too. But I don't think that's the case for _every_ engineer worldwide.

gchamonlive 7y ago

can you tell me how independent devs can access PHPStorm at lower rates? I would love to stop using VSCode. 200USD might be ok for you, but over 800 reais for an IDE is not something I can pay. Notebooks in Brazil are almost three times as expensive as abroad, internet costs are through the roof here as well as living costs... I thought this through, I just have a harder reality than you I guess

beberlei 7y ago
You can get a free license if you are part of an open-source project: https://www.jetbrains.com/opensource/ https://www.jetbrains.com/opensource/ And if you are an individual, the license is just 89 USD. If you are an individual contractor, then maybe you quality for a startup discount? This also gives you 50%: https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#personal?billing=yearly https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#personal?billing=yea...
- gchamonlive 7y ago
  I completely missed the `For individuals` tab...
- Ayesh 7y ago
  I can also suggest you to approach JetBrains people if you see them in at a conference. They sponsor many PHP conferences, and open source maintainers (don't have to Linus) can request or open-source license. They also have an Early Access Program that you try out beta releases, and they are free of cost.
ryanianian 7y ago
JetBrains has a handful of ways that can significantly reduce or eliminate license fees for their products https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#discounts https://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/buy/#discounts
edgarvaldes 7y ago
>can you tell me how independent devs can access PHPStorm at lower rates? Individual license starts at $89, and fall to $71 in the first renewal, then to $53 onwards. So I think it is not that expensive. YMMV.
- joe5150 7y ago
  you also get a perpetual license if you pay for a year upfront or 12 consecutive months of your subscription, so you can stop paying and keep using the version you paid for forever

tasuki 7y ago

> Already Chairs, Desk and Rent for every engineer is more expensive than 200 USD every year. In my part of the world it is, too. But I don't think that's the case for _every_ engineer worldwide.