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Mostly I agree with the idea of limited eating to a window of roughly 12 hours; however I disagree with skipping breakfast. I never use to eat breakfast until

by evo_9 7y ago

Mostly I agree with the idea of limited eating to a window of roughly 12 hours; however I disagree with skipping breakfast. I never use to eat breakfast until a recent hockey injury where I damaged 6 teeth including losing 2. My weight dropped rapidly because I couldn't eat solids so I started to eat eggs and tofu a lot (mostly eggs). The byproduct of all this was I would wake up so hungry I was dizzy so I started having 3 eggs for breakfast. I'm mostly over the injury now (still waiting for the implants to be implanted), however I've continued to eat a large breakfast and my weight has remained the same - roughly 20 pounds lower than before the injury. I had already gotten in the habit of not eating at night, and if I have anything it's a little bit of yogurt. Long/short I think it's a mistake to skip breakfast, I had done that for most of my life and now I'm sharper and more productive in the AM than I have ever been.

navigatesol 7y ago
>Long/short I think it's a mistake to skip breakfast I'm not sure your experiment of n=1 is enough for anyone else to take the advice that contradicts empirical evidence. But, do what works for you.
talkingtab 7y ago
It would be interesting to get more information. Having a severe appetite while your body rebuilds seems reasonable. And needing more of a particular kind of food during that time (calcium? protein?) also seems reasonable. I wonder if you moved the three eggs to lunch time what would happen? In other words, is it now the three eggs or the skipping breakfast? My own experience is that unless I have been strenuously active skipping breakfast does not have any negative effects.
SkyPuncher 7y ago
Just an anecdote as proof to the opposite. If I eat breakfast, I ruin my entire day. It seems for me digesting a meal early in the day makes me lazy and sleepy. In high school, I use to eat a very light breakfast to avoid terrible hunger just before lunch. Even then, I'd get a bit sleepy. As I've gotten older, it just gets worse. My solution is to skip breakfast, but eat lunch an hour earlier than most people.
- t0mbstone 7y ago
  What are you eating for breakfast? Foods that are high in carbs (such as cereal or pancakes) are often eaten by people, but these are terrible because they spike your blood sugar (and insulin), and then you have the blood sugar crash right before lunch. I had a lot of luck with eating breakfast foods high in fat and protein, like boiled eggs and bacon. It works best if your body is adapted to a ketogenic diet, and you avoid carbs in general. One you are adapted to a ketogenic diet, you will find that you can skip entire meals without hardly even noticing a reduction in energy. Your blood sugar will stabilise over time, and you just always have a low and slow burn of energy.
  - SkyPuncher 7y ago
    It really doesn't matter what I eat (I've tried tons of combinations). If it's anything substantial, it makes me sleepy.
tvanantwerp 7y ago
From what I've heard/read, time-restricted feeding works best when you skip dinner versus skipping breakfast. So I'm not surprised that's been your experience. But it's also socially difficult to maintain a no-dinner lifestyle, so I still choose to skip breakfast instead. I'll take the 80% benefit I can maintain versus the 100% I can't.
zolphe 7y ago
There is an interesting twitter thread [0] that relates to your experience of difficulty eating while in need of enough food for recovery. It is about a treatment using large quantity of eggs (35 per day) for severe burn victims where 7 out of 8 survived. Also my 2c about breakfast, it is important to have a diet that works for you and I don't think skipping breakfast for me is a mistake simply because I'm not hungry at that time. IMHO forcing yourself to eat for breakfast because you have been told otherwise would be a mistake is the mistake, and listening to your body is more important. [0] https://twitter.com/mangan150/status/1156697355875307520?s=21 https://twitter.com/mangan150/status/1156697355875307520?s=2...
- evo_9 7y ago
  Agree it is entirely an individual thing. I’m probably an outlier in that I workout 6 days a week and play hockey 3-4 times weekly. I typically burn around 800 or so calories on my non-hockey days; when I play hockey I hit 1600-1800 regularly (years of data in case anyone is wondering).

by evo_9 7y ago

navigatesol 7y ago

>Long/short I think it's a mistake to skip breakfast I'm not sure your experiment of n=1 is enough for anyone else to take the advice that contradicts empirical evidence. But, do what works for you.

talkingtab 7y ago

It would be interesting to get more information. Having a severe appetite while your body rebuilds seems reasonable. And needing more of a particular kind of food during that time (calcium? protein?) also seems reasonable. I wonder if you moved the three eggs to lunch time what would happen? In other words, is it now the three eggs or the skipping breakfast? My own experience is that unless I have been strenuously active skipping breakfast does not have any negative effects.

SkyPuncher 7y ago

Just an anecdote as proof to the opposite. If I eat breakfast, I ruin my entire day. It seems for me digesting a meal early in the day makes me lazy and sleepy. In high school, I use to eat a very light breakfast to avoid terrible hunger just before lunch. Even then, I'd get a bit sleepy. As I've gotten older, it just gets worse. My solution is to skip breakfast, but eat lunch an hour earlier than most people.

t0mbstone 7y ago
What are you eating for breakfast? Foods that are high in carbs (such as cereal or pancakes) are often eaten by people, but these are terrible because they spike your blood sugar (and insulin), and then you have the blood sugar crash right before lunch. I had a lot of luck with eating breakfast foods high in fat and protein, like boiled eggs and bacon. It works best if your body is adapted to a ketogenic diet, and you avoid carbs in general. One you are adapted to a ketogenic diet, you will find that you can skip entire meals without hardly even noticing a reduction in energy. Your blood sugar will stabilise over time, and you just always have a low and slow burn of energy.
- SkyPuncher 7y ago
  It really doesn't matter what I eat (I've tried tons of combinations). If it's anything substantial, it makes me sleepy.

tvanantwerp 7y ago

From what I've heard/read, time-restricted feeding works best when you skip dinner versus skipping breakfast. So I'm not surprised that's been your experience. But it's also socially difficult to maintain a no-dinner lifestyle, so I still choose to skip breakfast instead. I'll take the 80% benefit I can maintain versus the 100% I can't.

zolphe 7y ago

There is an interesting twitter thread [0] that relates to your experience of difficulty eating while in need of enough food for recovery. It is about a treatment using large quantity of eggs (35 per day) for severe burn victims where 7 out of 8 survived. Also my 2c about breakfast, it is important to have a diet that works for you and I don't think skipping breakfast for me is a mistake simply because I'm not hungry at that time. IMHO forcing yourself to eat for breakfast because you have been told otherwise would be a mistake is the mistake, and listening to your body is more important. [0] https://twitter.com/mangan150/status/1156697355875307520?s=21 https://twitter.com/mangan150/status/1156697355875307520?s=2...

evo_9 7y ago
Agree it is entirely an individual thing. I’m probably an outlier in that I workout 6 days a week and play hockey 3-4 times weekly. I typically burn around 800 or so calories on my non-hockey days; when I play hockey I hit 1600-1800 regularly (years of data in case anyone is wondering).