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So? Does that mean babies don't feel pain? Because that is what the medical profession concluded. Here is a good overview: http://nocirc.org/symposia/second/cha
by nonbel 7y ago
So? Does that mean babies don't feel pain? Because that is what the medical profession concluded. Here is a good overview: http://nocirc.org/symposia/second/chamberlain.html http://nocirc.org/symposia/second/chamberlain.html
- scotty79 7y agoYou are in an accident and have to be operated on, but using anesthesia would drop probability of survival from 90% to 10%. They can give you instead a drug that will prevent you from remembering pain that has no influence on probability of success operation. What would you chose? I'm not saying that this is the exact case with infants. Just trying to illustrate there might be valid reasons to inflict temporary pain to save health.
- adrianN 7y agoTechnically we don't know whether general anesthesia actually prevents you from feeling pain, or whether it just prevents you from forming memories. As far as I know at least.
- wycy 7y agoI would imagine that we must know that by now. We should be able to just see on a brain scan whether the pain centers are lighting up in response to pain.
- falsedan 7y agoOr just treating people with the drugs and doing normal pain/sensation tests with them
- falsedan 7y agoGeneral anesthesia is usually a combination of multiple drugs. We know exactly what each drug does, medical science isn’t so good at explaining why the drugs have these actions. anesthetists combine these drugs to suit the requirements of the procedure and the patient Anesthesia usually includes drugs with distinct, separate actions, like an analgesic (to block pain receptors), muscle relaxants (so patients can be moved/organs accessed), CNS depressants (to prevent unexpected spasms disturbing the surgeon), coma-inductors (so patients don’t chat with the staff and freak them out after practicing on cadavers for years), and amnesia-inductors (because surgery is kind of gross).
- jdietrich 7y ago>We know exactly what each drug does We know enough about them to use them safely, but most anaesthetic drugs are somewhere on the spectrum from "not fully understood" to "a complete mystery". Science knows how anaesthesia works in the same sense that I know how a car works - I can push the pedals and turn the wheels with sufficient proficiency to get to the grocery store in one piece, but I'll be damned if I can explain what's happening under the hood. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2778226/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2778226/
- falsedan 7y agoyes, if you quote the next part of my post: > medical science isn’t so good at explaining why the drugs have these actions you can see I'm in full agreement
- mattkrause 7y agoI guess that's technically correct, in that it's difficult-to-impossible to "know" about someone else's subjective experiences. On the other hand, painful stimuli tend to (e.g.) increase a person's heart rate and blood pressure, and that the proper anesthetic plane blocks those responses, so it's clearly doing something in the moment. What we don't know every well is the mechanism of action for general anesthetics.
- gekkeboom 7y agodeath for sure.
- qwsxyh 7y agoI would choose the anesthesia, obviously.
- nonbel 7y agoI would clearly choose to have doctors believe that I could feel no pain... That way there is no trade off.
- b_tterc_p 7y agoI would rather suffer pain as a baby than permanent brain damage from anesthesia. It’s not a simple choice.