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> I’m just concerned that taken to the extreme it mistakes excessive pattern recognition prep for true comprehension and aptitude. Especially if it’s “whoever p

> I’m just concerned that taken to the extreme it mistakes excessive pattern recognition prep for true comprehension and aptitude. Especially if it’s “whoever puts the optimal solution on the board fastest wins.” I agree with you on this. They do have taken this to the extreme because the questions are getting harder and harder. This is hard tbh because if you're an employer whom used to be able to filter candidates by asking "easy" algorithms questions and woke up one day to only find out that everybody knows the answer, what will you do? "It used to work so we just have to improve it, right?" => make a more challenging questions.

JudgeWapner 7y ago
>what will you do? You'll do the same thing most other professional industries do. List the requirements for the job: x to y years experience with technologies a,b and c. Grab a handful of the most polished resumes, interview them for personality, and hire the one you liked best.
- hello_moto 7y ago
  Previous method works well,why change it? Silicon Valley thrive in tricky algo questions. That's how they hired engineers since long time ago.
abalone 7y ago
Improvement doesn't mean making it harder. SAT questions don't get harder every year (ideally). They're just different. It takes effort to come up with something different and novel though. Most places don't. Maybe that's what the industry needs.. its own SAT. Heck man, that would make interviewing a lot better. You take one brutal test over a few hours, get your score, and then apply to multiple companies. You don't have to do dozens of whiteboard code interviews. Job postings specify score ranges. There's different score components (algos vs system design, like math vs verbal). I guess there are startups like triplebyte trying to do that, but they're not as independent as the SAT. They make money off hires.
- hello_moto 7y ago
  I would argue that we are going toward that direction with slightly different variation/format. Faang and multiple SV companies will ask 3-5 LeetCodes with 1-2 System Design. Some started to incorporate behavior question (like Amazon with 14 LPs)

JudgeWapner 7y ago

>what will you do? You'll do the same thing most other professional industries do. List the requirements for the job: x to y years experience with technologies a,b and c. Grab a handful of the most polished resumes, interview them for personality, and hire the one you liked best.

hello_moto 7y ago
Previous method works well,why change it? Silicon Valley thrive in tricky algo questions. That's how they hired engineers since long time ago.

abalone 7y ago

Improvement doesn't mean making it harder. SAT questions don't get harder every year (ideally). They're just different. It takes effort to come up with something different and novel though. Most places don't. Maybe that's what the industry needs.. its own SAT. Heck man, that would make interviewing a lot better. You take one brutal test over a few hours, get your score, and then apply to multiple companies. You don't have to do dozens of whiteboard code interviews. Job postings specify score ranges. There's different score components (algos vs system design, like math vs verbal). I guess there are startups like triplebyte trying to do that, but they're not as independent as the SAT. They make money off hires.

hello_moto 7y ago
I would argue that we are going toward that direction with slightly different variation/format. Faang and multiple SV companies will ask 3-5 LeetCodes with 1-2 System Design. Some started to incorporate behavior question (like Amazon with 14 LPs)