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There is a bit more then that: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying And no, he didn't flee to china, he transited through Hong Kong, w

by jascii 7y ago

There is a bit more then that: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying And no, he didn't flee to china, he transited through Hong Kong, which seems to be a sound tactical choice considering Hong Kongs unique position in international politics.

antoniuschan99 7y ago
I have been waiting to hear his take on the protests going on there because back then he said he chose HK because of the freedoms it exercised.
- jascii 7y ago
  I think it did at the time, I see the protests as a response to mainland China's efforts to reduce those freedoms.
lern_too_spel 7y ago
> There is a bit more then that: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying EFF has no evidence that it was anything more than that. If it was anything more than that, don't you think Snowden would have leaked it? > he transited through Hong Kong Not by choice. He wanted to stay in Hong Kong, but Hong Kong wanted nothing to do with him. “I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the United States government in the courts, because I have faith in Hong Kong’s rule of law.” https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1259422/edward-snowden-let-hong-kong-people-decide-my-fate https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1259422/edward-s...
- dTal 7y ago
  He was in Hawaii, and not in possession of a teleport. Which country with functioning human rights strong enough to resist American extradition pressure do you suggest he have taken a plane to?
  - lern_too_spel 7y ago
    I wouldn't have concocted some ridiculous conspiracy theory to require fleeing to an oppressive country which I would leak intelligence to, but assuming I were that stupid but not stupid enough to look at countries more closely, I probably would have asked for asylum from Ecuador following Assange's example. Snowden was not being followed until he started leaking secrets, so he could have gone literally anywhere on Earth.
- jascii 7y ago
  > EFF has no evidence that it was anything more than that. If it was anything more than that, don't you think Snowden would have leaked it? A lot of it is public record, no need to leak: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline
  - lern_too_spel 7y ago
    What is in the public record does not include intentional spying on Americans as they have alleged.

by jascii 7y ago

antoniuschan99 7y ago

I have been waiting to hear his take on the protests going on there because back then he said he chose HK because of the freedoms it exercised.

jascii 7y ago
I think it did at the time, I see the protests as a response to mainland China's efforts to reduce those freedoms.

lern_too_spel 7y ago

> There is a bit more then that: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying EFF has no evidence that it was anything more than that. If it was anything more than that, don't you think Snowden would have leaked it? > he transited through Hong Kong Not by choice. He wanted to stay in Hong Kong, but Hong Kong wanted nothing to do with him. “I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the United States government in the courts, because I have faith in Hong Kong’s rule of law.” https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1259422/edward-snowden-let-hong-kong-people-decide-my-fate https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1259422/edward-s...

dTal 7y ago
He was in Hawaii, and not in possession of a teleport. Which country with functioning human rights strong enough to resist American extradition pressure do you suggest he have taken a plane to?
- lern_too_spel 7y ago
  I wouldn't have concocted some ridiculous conspiracy theory to require fleeing to an oppressive country which I would leak intelligence to, but assuming I were that stupid but not stupid enough to look at countries more closely, I probably would have asked for asylum from Ecuador following Assange's example. Snowden was not being followed until he started leaking secrets, so he could have gone literally anywhere on Earth.
jascii 7y ago
> EFF has no evidence that it was anything more than that. If it was anything more than that, don't you think Snowden would have leaked it? A lot of it is public record, no need to leak: https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline https://www.eff.org/nsa-spying/timeline
- lern_too_spel 7y ago
  What is in the public record does not include intentional spying on Americans as they have alleged.