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yeah not because they made a more important product but because people aren't buying the iphones like they used to

SN76477 7y ago
I have upgraded once in 5 years (from a 6 to the 8+) They are a great product, durable and very capable even when they are 3 or 4 years old. Im not chasing innovation, I want something I can depend on.
- addicted 7y ago
  I agree. I used my iPhone 6 since 2015 till a few months ago. Androids do not last that long. The problem is that during that time my iPhone suffered damage, despite a case (some of the damage was acknowledged as inherent flaws, but some were just my fault). And being a 6 I was able to get it repaired for a reasonable price. That is increasingly less true for newer iPhones. It's $50 more to buy a new iPad than it is to repair the iPhone X screen. You can buy an iPad Air ($499) for less than the cost of any other iPhone X damage ($549). And if you lose your iPhone, and would like to buy something cheap to keep you going until you splurge for the next generation a few months or a year from now, then your cheapest entry point is north of $500 again. The economics of owning an iPhone are getting pretty rough, compared to what you get on the Android side.
  - penagwin 7y ago
    (I work in cell phone repair part time) Checkout the "lower end" iPhones like the 7/8 (wait for apple to release their new stuff in the fall first so it's price drops). They really aren't that slow compared to the new phones, the improvements in phones have REALLY slowed down. I'm the kind of person who has a i7 8700k, 1080ti, 32GB gaming machine, but I've been using my iPhone 7 Plus for two years, and I have nothing to complain about performance wise. And the iPhone 7 is only 450$ new from Apple. A screen repair from a 3rd party will be less then 100$. The iPhone 7/8's are also really easy to repair by yourself (can't speak for the higher ones) - the exact screen our store uses for iphone 7 repairs costs less than 25$. Battery is only 12$. I understand that the "average joe" likely shouldn't attempt to repair it, but I figure the typical HN audience wouldn't have much issues - just be slow and follow ifixit. They're very affordable/easy to repair, and are solid phones, and they'll be getting updates for at least a few more years.
  - pier25 7y ago
    > The economics of owning an iPhone are getting pretty rough, compared to what you get on the Android side. Specially when you can get a pretty decent device such as the Mi A2 for $200 that runs Android One (almost stock).
    - scarface74 7y ago
      I’ve had experience with “pretty decent” Android phones like the Moto G. It was nowhere near as performant as my iPhone 6s that was three years older. I bought a Moto G for my son. He was glad to “upgrade” to a phone that was three years older.
      - pier25 7y ago
        I had a Moto G (it was my first Android phone) and the Mi A2 is way better than that.
- penagwin 7y ago
  I have a similar opinion of iPhones. It's sad that people only really look at the flagship models and go "WOWZER IPHONES COST 1200$?!" The iPhone 8+ is 700$ which is still inline with "Previous Generation Pricing", heck a iPhone 7 starts at 450$ and is an incredible device. I have a 7 Plus, it's going to be 2 years old this year, still going strong, no desire to upgrade - which is odd for me, I'm the kind of person who has a 1080ti, etc. - but my phone does EVERYTHING I ask of it, and Apple is happily supplying it with updates for at least another few years. This idea that people have to spend $1200+ dollars on a phone every year needs to die.

I have upgraded once in 5 years (from a 6 to the 8+) They are a great product, durable and very capable even when they are 3 or 4 years old. Im not chasing innovation, I want something I can depend on.

addicted 7y ago
I agree. I used my iPhone 6 since 2015 till a few months ago. Androids do not last that long. The problem is that during that time my iPhone suffered damage, despite a case (some of the damage was acknowledged as inherent flaws, but some were just my fault). And being a 6 I was able to get it repaired for a reasonable price. That is increasingly less true for newer iPhones. It's $50 more to buy a new iPad than it is to repair the iPhone X screen. You can buy an iPad Air ($499) for less than the cost of any other iPhone X damage ($549). And if you lose your iPhone, and would like to buy something cheap to keep you going until you splurge for the next generation a few months or a year from now, then your cheapest entry point is north of $500 again. The economics of owning an iPhone are getting pretty rough, compared to what you get on the Android side.
- penagwin 7y ago
  (I work in cell phone repair part time) Checkout the "lower end" iPhones like the 7/8 (wait for apple to release their new stuff in the fall first so it's price drops). They really aren't that slow compared to the new phones, the improvements in phones have REALLY slowed down. I'm the kind of person who has a i7 8700k, 1080ti, 32GB gaming machine, but I've been using my iPhone 7 Plus for two years, and I have nothing to complain about performance wise. And the iPhone 7 is only 450$ new from Apple. A screen repair from a 3rd party will be less then 100$. The iPhone 7/8's are also really easy to repair by yourself (can't speak for the higher ones) - the exact screen our store uses for iphone 7 repairs costs less than 25$. Battery is only 12$. I understand that the "average joe" likely shouldn't attempt to repair it, but I figure the typical HN audience wouldn't have much issues - just be slow and follow ifixit. They're very affordable/easy to repair, and are solid phones, and they'll be getting updates for at least a few more years.
- pier25 7y ago
  > The economics of owning an iPhone are getting pretty rough, compared to what you get on the Android side. Specially when you can get a pretty decent device such as the Mi A2 for $200 that runs Android One (almost stock).
  - scarface74 7y ago
    I’ve had experience with “pretty decent” Android phones like the Moto G. It was nowhere near as performant as my iPhone 6s that was three years older. I bought a Moto G for my son. He was glad to “upgrade” to a phone that was three years older.
    - pier25 7y ago
      I had a Moto G (it was my first Android phone) and the Mi A2 is way better than that.
penagwin 7y ago
I have a similar opinion of iPhones. It's sad that people only really look at the flagship models and go "WOWZER IPHONES COST 1200$?!" The iPhone 8+ is 700$ which is still inline with "Previous Generation Pricing", heck a iPhone 7 starts at 450$ and is an incredible device. I have a 7 Plus, it's going to be 2 years old this year, still going strong, no desire to upgrade - which is odd for me, I'm the kind of person who has a 1080ti, etc. - but my phone does EVERYTHING I ask of it, and Apple is happily supplying it with updates for at least another few years. This idea that people have to spend $1200+ dollars on a phone every year needs to die.