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> an unusual lexicon that includes words such as “hoagie” and “jimmies” (a sub sandwich and sprinkles, respectively) Also water ice, which the rest of the worl

by spodek 7y ago

> an unusual lexicon that includes words such as “hoagie” and “jimmies” (a sub sandwich and sprinkles, respectively) Also water ice, which the rest of the world calls Italian ice.

markkanof 7y ago
Also, at least among my peers in the Philly area, jimmies were the brown/chocolate ones, sprinkles were the multicolored ones.
- benburton 7y ago
  Whoa whoa whoa... I thought jimmies were the "long" ones and sprinkles were the smaller, circular ones.
xntrk 7y ago
I thought they were actually slightly different things. Italian ice being much harder and water ice being softer. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/10/489217423/water-ice-phillys-classic-summer-cooler-gets-hot-across-the-country https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/10/489217423/wa... the wikipedia seems to imply they are they same.
- dfxm12 7y ago
  There's no legal or culinary definition for any of these. You can call it sorbet, granita, water ice, or probably one of many other local names and it'll have similar ingredients, but maybe a different ratio or texture. You can't even get Italians to agree on what a granita should be.
Sean1708 7y ago
And for those of us that are neither from Philadelphia nor the rest of the world, it's apparently similar to a sorbet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ice
- jaclaz 7y ago
  Yep, and for those from Italy is granita (which is not a sorbet, it is - slightly - different): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granita And it is commonly eaten (in Sicily) with a brioscia (which is also - slightly - different from the more known French brioche).
etatoby 7y ago
If that's what I think it is, the rest of the world (including Italy) calls it a Sorbet or Sherbet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbet It's basically ice, fruit pulp and sugar, blended together.
- numbsafari 7y ago
  It's as though the ratio and process of blending those ingredients together can't possibly produce a different result... Sorbet, Sherbet, "Italian Ice" and "Water Ice" (as experienced in Philly) are not all the same thing. Also, sherbet contains dairy, none of these others do.
- swebs 7y ago
  The consistency is different. Nowadays Rita's has expanded to most states. Go there if you want to try one out.
- magashna 7y ago
  italian ice in the US is sugary and artificial, definitely no real fruit involved
jghn 7y ago
Jimmies is a common phrase in New England, so definitely not just a Philly thing
- skykooler 7y ago
  Living in Philly, I've always heard "sprinkles" except from people from New England; I'm not sure the writer put that one in the right geographic bucket.
  - jghn 7y ago
    At least in MA, jimmies are the chocolate ones, sprinkles are the multicolored ones. I've heard that that's not 100% uniform throughout New England, but can't confirm. I did see another comment make the same statement about Philly, so I'm guessing it's also a Philly thing? EDIT: Just saw you identified as a Philly person, so perhaps not :)

by spodek 7y ago

> an unusual lexicon that includes words such as “hoagie” and “jimmies” (a sub sandwich and sprinkles, respectively) Also water ice, which the rest of the world calls Italian ice.

markkanof 7y ago

Also, at least among my peers in the Philly area, jimmies were the brown/chocolate ones, sprinkles were the multicolored ones.

benburton 7y ago
Whoa whoa whoa... I thought jimmies were the "long" ones and sprinkles were the smaller, circular ones.

xntrk 7y ago

I thought they were actually slightly different things. Italian ice being much harder and water ice being softer. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/10/489217423/water-ice-phillys-classic-summer-cooler-gets-hot-across-the-country https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/08/10/489217423/wa... the wikipedia seems to imply they are they same.

dfxm12 7y ago
There's no legal or culinary definition for any of these. You can call it sorbet, granita, water ice, or probably one of many other local names and it'll have similar ingredients, but maybe a different ratio or texture. You can't even get Italians to agree on what a granita should be.

Sean1708 7y ago

And for those of us that are neither from Philadelphia nor the rest of the world, it's apparently similar to a sorbet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ice

jaclaz 7y ago
Yep, and for those from Italy is granita (which is not a sorbet, it is - slightly - different): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granita And it is commonly eaten (in Sicily) with a brioscia (which is also - slightly - different from the more known French brioche).

etatoby 7y ago

If that's what I think it is, the rest of the world (including Italy) calls it a Sorbet or Sherbet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbet It's basically ice, fruit pulp and sugar, blended together.

numbsafari 7y ago
It's as though the ratio and process of blending those ingredients together can't possibly produce a different result... Sorbet, Sherbet, "Italian Ice" and "Water Ice" (as experienced in Philly) are not all the same thing. Also, sherbet contains dairy, none of these others do.
swebs 7y ago
The consistency is different. Nowadays Rita's has expanded to most states. Go there if you want to try one out.
magashna 7y ago
italian ice in the US is sugary and artificial, definitely no real fruit involved

jghn 7y ago

Jimmies is a common phrase in New England, so definitely not just a Philly thing

skykooler 7y ago
Living in Philly, I've always heard "sprinkles" except from people from New England; I'm not sure the writer put that one in the right geographic bucket.
- jghn 7y ago
  At least in MA, jimmies are the chocolate ones, sprinkles are the multicolored ones. I've heard that that's not 100% uniform throughout New England, but can't confirm. I did see another comment make the same statement about Philly, so I'm guessing it's also a Philly thing? EDIT: Just saw you identified as a Philly person, so perhaps not :)