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It's a strawman only if you ignore the historical/nutrition data, unless you believe that barley and legumes are processed foods full of added sugars. "Gladia

It's a strawman only if you ignore the historical/nutrition data, unless you believe that barley and legumes are processed foods full of added sugars. "Gladiators, it seems, were fat. Consuming a lot of simple carbohydrates, such as barley, and legumes, like beans, was designed for survival in the arena. Packing in the carbs also packed on the pounds. "Gladiators needed subcutaneous fat," Grossschmidt explains." https://archive.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/gladiator.html https://archive.archaeology.org/0811/abstracts/gladiator.htm...

windexh8er 7y ago
Consuming copious amounts of anything with a high carb/calorie load can make you fat. Barley, sweet potatos, cookies, etc. If your point is that eating a lot can cause your body to store energy then well done. Did I state otherwise? No.
- gdyefd0897 7y ago
  Of course you did First you started by saying how "Processed foods are the the issue. Not "grains". Carbohydrates are not the devil here" and then "But so many overlook how carbs are good. Fruits and vegetables are loaded with carbs and fiber. Most people don't think 5 grams of broccoli carbs are bad for you, but it's obvious when you compare those 5 grams from broccoli to 5 grams of carbs from Oreos." According to you then barley and legumes which are loaded with carbs (Good carbs, not Oreos carbs) and fibers are good and doesn't make someone fat, because as you wrote, processed foods are the issue, right? Nowhere in my post i say anything about "copious amounts", you did.
  - windexh8er 7y ago
    I believe you're missing the point. Do I believe processed foods contribute to obesity and health in a negative fashion? Yes. Quick comparison of carb/calorie load of processed vs raw shows the story rather plainly. It doesn't take too much insight to gather that if you compare them side by side those processed foods contain a whole lot more of what you don't want per gram. Saturated fat, sugar, cholesterol, sodium, etc. Those things are fine in moderation, but most processed foods are high in one or many of those things. And, no - carbs aren't the devil. Eating too much of anything can make you fat. My point is that people use the strawman of saying that by there are fat vegetarians (there are) because it's not hard to eat a crappy diet and be vegetarian. My guess is that you're on something like a strict "Paleo" diet and have a hard time rationalizing how carbs are part of a healthy diet. But your point is so poorly made I'm not sure what you're arguing. If you're trying to hang me out to dry because I stated fibers are good and didn't qualify that by overeating them they can make you "fat", well then - you got me. I assumed that was implied knowledge and we didn't need to explain simple logic as well.

windexh8er 7y ago

Consuming copious amounts of anything with a high carb/calorie load can make you fat. Barley, sweet potatos, cookies, etc. If your point is that eating a lot can cause your body to store energy then well done. Did I state otherwise? No.

gdyefd0897 7y ago
Of course you did First you started by saying how "Processed foods are the the issue. Not "grains". Carbohydrates are not the devil here" and then "But so many overlook how carbs are good. Fruits and vegetables are loaded with carbs and fiber. Most people don't think 5 grams of broccoli carbs are bad for you, but it's obvious when you compare those 5 grams from broccoli to 5 grams of carbs from Oreos." According to you then barley and legumes which are loaded with carbs (Good carbs, not Oreos carbs) and fibers are good and doesn't make someone fat, because as you wrote, processed foods are the issue, right? Nowhere in my post i say anything about "copious amounts", you did.
- windexh8er 7y ago
  I believe you're missing the point. Do I believe processed foods contribute to obesity and health in a negative fashion? Yes. Quick comparison of carb/calorie load of processed vs raw shows the story rather plainly. It doesn't take too much insight to gather that if you compare them side by side those processed foods contain a whole lot more of what you don't want per gram. Saturated fat, sugar, cholesterol, sodium, etc. Those things are fine in moderation, but most processed foods are high in one or many of those things. And, no - carbs aren't the devil. Eating too much of anything can make you fat. My point is that people use the strawman of saying that by there are fat vegetarians (there are) because it's not hard to eat a crappy diet and be vegetarian. My guess is that you're on something like a strict "Paleo" diet and have a hard time rationalizing how carbs are part of a healthy diet. But your point is so poorly made I'm not sure what you're arguing. If you're trying to hang me out to dry because I stated fibers are good and didn't qualify that by overeating them they can make you "fat", well then - you got me. I assumed that was implied knowledge and we didn't need to explain simple logic as well.