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Neat! I'd love to see the rise of a high end clothing brand centered on making clothes with kevlar and other novel materials to create a comfortable washable c
by cwkoss 7y ago
Neat! I'd love to see the rise of a high end clothing brand centered on making clothes with kevlar and other novel materials to create a comfortable washable clothing with a higher protection factor.
- jameshart 7y agoI am at a loss as to what your threat model might be where that makes some kind of sense.
- verdverm 7y agoCriminals use the weapons this protects against? Crowd control situations. I imagine this is more for police than the opposite
- david_shaw 7y agoI don't think it's crazy to suggest the creation of fashionable items with enhanced protection. At the high-end, bulletproof suits and luxury vehicles certainly have a market that already exists today.
- moftz 7y agoYou still have to dissipate all of that energy. All a kevlar suit jacket is going to do is allow you to easily pull the bullet out of your chest. Getting shot while wearing a vest still causes immense bruising and can still break bones. Kevlar clothing would be more stab and slash resistant.
- Mirioron 7y agoBut they could still protect you from a whole bunch of accidental injuries. Eg stepping or falling onto a rusty nail or sharp glass or a rock. Protective clothing that would double as regular clothing could make you safer against that.
- how2cflags 7y agoActually kevlar is already used in motorcycle equipment to assist with abrasion resistance/heat friction in slides. For example I've a button up fleece shirt layered completely with an aramid on the inside. Comfortable, normal looking and most importantly functional.
- jamesmus 7y agoAnd kevlar jeans are very common for motorcyclists nowadays (I have a pair and they are pretty comfortable).
- cwkoss 7y agoIf I could pay $400 for bulletproof knifeproof jeans - that are as comfortable as regular ones, I probably would. It isn't necessarily a rational decision, but it would offer a small amount of peace of mind plus a cool factor. Woodworking, gardening, kitchen - several activities would be slightly safer with some extra stab/slash-protection.
- etrautmann 7y agoI don't understand why this is cool or what it would protect you from? A dress shirt maybe but who's stabbing or shooting legs?
- cwkoss 7y agoMy threat model is less concerned about intentional violence, and more about accidental injury. If I can reduce my chance of accidental death by 1% for a few hundred bucks, that would be cool, if not necessarily economically rational. Oh, I want the dress shirt too! Heck, I'd wear a helmet with a HUD if it was comfortable and socially acceptable.
- A2017U1 7y agoAt that price point it's entirely rational. > wear a helmet with a HUD if it was comfortable and socially acceptable Google glass suggests you'll be waiting a while, I'll be right there with you though. Maybe in Japan one day?
- stickfigure 7y agoDo you require vision correction, and if not, do you wear glasses anyway?
- LeifCarrotson 7y ago> My threat model is less concerned about intentional violence, and more about accidental injury. If I can reduce my chance of accidental death by 1%... We don't live in a world where loaded small arms are distributed about your everyday environment as in video games where they're just laying about on crates which mysteriously clutter offices, and also spontaneously discharge frequently [1]. Under that hypothetical threat model, I will grant that jeans and dress shirts which are casually bullet resistant would be a reasonable response. Instead, a realistic threat model has a huge number of things you could spend your time and money on which would be more effective at keeping you safe. For example, upgrading to a newer car with better safety ratings, and taking extra time to drive slower and more carefully, could be effective in reducing the 0.012% chance you have each year of dying in a motor vehicle accident. That baseline is almost 100 times larger than your (in the US) 0.00015% chance of dying due to a firearm accident. To reduce that already miniscule chance, not keeping a gun in your house, avoiding firing ranges, and avoiding hunting areas would be more effective than everyday Kevlar. [1] Relatively frequent accidental discharge would be an interesting mod for a first-person shooter. It could help teach good muzzle control if you handicap yourself or your teammate before the match even starts.
- Krasnol 7y agoIf you play it right, sense may become secondary.
- aaron695 7y agoThe exact same threat model as the trillion $ fashion industry sells to, living a boring life?
- impeachTheIdiot 7y agoPolice? What do you expect when plumbers have to go through more training than police?
- rgrieselhuber 7y agoThe executive protection market would be a great target for this.
- mschuster91 7y agoProtesting against the government, for one. Police crackdowns on protests have gone ever more aggressive over the last years, plus police has been more and more militarized.
- nickpsecurity 7y agoA lot of folks live in areas where muggings and gang-related murders are common. Extra protection at an affordable price is something they might appreciate.
- rladd 7y agoNot cheap, but it exists: https://miguelcaballero.com/en/home-3/ https://miguelcaballero.com/en/home-3/
- nullwasamistake 7y agoI'd look into kelvar shirts and "riding" jeans sold to motorcyclists. It's not gonna stop bullets but knives maybe. I heard the jeans especially are just as comfortable as denim (since people are used to rather rough denim pants anyways I guess)
- bitwize 7y agoOh, like John Wick's "ballistic" suit coat?
- PaulHoule 7y agoI was thinking the other day I would like to have some cool and lightweight pants for hiking that are highly resistant to stinging nettle, multiflora rose, etc -- and that some kind of hi-tech synthetic material might be better for this than jeans.
- BaronSamedi 7y agoThat does exist to some extent. See https://www.slash-pro.com/products https://www.slash-pro.com/products.