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Worked in plumbing some years ago. A colleague did a big job on the heating system for this guy,who then started evading him when it came to getting paid. My co

Worked in plumbing some years ago. A colleague did a big job on the heating system for this guy,who then started evading him when it came to getting paid. My colleague called him and said: I left a massive piece of metal in the pipework,so the first time you'll turn on the heating,the whole system will go tits up and you won't have heating for weeks. The guy was chasing my colleague for a week trying to give him the money.

gamblor956 7y ago
Sounds just as fake as the preceding story. Construction liens are designed expressly for situations like this and are fairly easy to get with proof of nonpayment (generally, a timely submitted invoice registered with your local trade union, inspector's office, or similar).
- cosmodisk 7y ago
  This was in the UK, where job was taken with only a verbal agreement. Only small majority of people don't pay and some of them then end up in situations like this. Aak any builder, especially where contracts aren't as strongly enforceable,and thry will tell you even more interesting ways of dealing with non paying clients.
  - gamblor956 7y ago
    They have construction liens in the UK as well...
    - fapjacks 7y ago
      Not even liens, but imagine what would happen to the person (and their business) if they were caught intentionally and maliciously building failure modes into the thing they were hired to build as a means to ensure they got paid.
      - cosmodisk 7y ago
        He didn't leave anything in the pipework,he was simply bluffing.No one in his own mind would actually do it.
        fapjacks 7y ago
        But that's what I'm saying: Nobody would be fooled by that. It's not a believable story because anybody with any kind of business and/or reputation would not do that, and everybody knows that to be the case.
        cosmodisk 7y ago
        You'd be surprised. Had a BBQ at my neighbour's a few months ago. He runs a few dental clinics,so at least financially, he's miles ahead of me. He did a pretty big renovation project on his house. The builders conned him left and right. This was in the UK. Back in Lithuania,where I'm from,some years ago, the government started a scheme,which encourages flat owners to insulate their buildings.Many blocks of flats were insulated,new cladding added, windows changed,etc. At some point,this thing came to the town,where I'm from. Local contractor hired some Ukrainians to do the work on the roof. There were disputes over the pay,etc. The end result? Many flats flooded,because the guys drilled some holes in the roof before leaving,which was fine during the summer,but so much,when heavy snowing started in winter.So the Ukrainians went back howe, the contractor is facing massive bills+ potential court cases and the residents are simply screwed. I worked in construction industry long enough not to jist hear but to see shit that won't fit any framework.
        fapjacks 7y ago
        Well, you're not convincing anybody with a story about Ukrainians damaging roofs in Lithuania, because that's not what I'm talking about, and you knowing a guy in the UK that told you at a BBQ he was "conned left and right" doesn't mean anything to me since I've asserted your anecdotal stories are already not believable.

gamblor956 7y ago

Sounds just as fake as the preceding story. Construction liens are designed expressly for situations like this and are fairly easy to get with proof of nonpayment (generally, a timely submitted invoice registered with your local trade union, inspector's office, or similar).

cosmodisk 7y ago
This was in the UK, where job was taken with only a verbal agreement. Only small majority of people don't pay and some of them then end up in situations like this. Aak any builder, especially where contracts aren't as strongly enforceable,and thry will tell you even more interesting ways of dealing with non paying clients.
- gamblor956 7y ago
  They have construction liens in the UK as well...
  - fapjacks 7y ago
    Not even liens, but imagine what would happen to the person (and their business) if they were caught intentionally and maliciously building failure modes into the thing they were hired to build as a means to ensure they got paid.
    - cosmodisk 7y ago
      He didn't leave anything in the pipework,he was simply bluffing.No one in his own mind would actually do it.
      - fapjacks 7y ago
        But that's what I'm saying: Nobody would be fooled by that. It's not a believable story because anybody with any kind of business and/or reputation would not do that, and everybody knows that to be the case.
        cosmodisk 7y ago
        You'd be surprised. Had a BBQ at my neighbour's a few months ago. He runs a few dental clinics,so at least financially, he's miles ahead of me. He did a pretty big renovation project on his house. The builders conned him left and right. This was in the UK. Back in Lithuania,where I'm from,some years ago, the government started a scheme,which encourages flat owners to insulate their buildings.Many blocks of flats were insulated,new cladding added, windows changed,etc. At some point,this thing came to the town,where I'm from. Local contractor hired some Ukrainians to do the work on the roof. There were disputes over the pay,etc. The end result? Many flats flooded,because the guys drilled some holes in the roof before leaving,which was fine during the summer,but so much,when heavy snowing started in winter.So the Ukrainians went back howe, the contractor is facing massive bills+ potential court cases and the residents are simply screwed. I worked in construction industry long enough not to jist hear but to see shit that won't fit any framework.
        fapjacks 7y ago
        Well, you're not convincing anybody with a story about Ukrainians damaging roofs in Lithuania, because that's not what I'm talking about, and you knowing a guy in the UK that told you at a BBQ he was "conned left and right" doesn't mean anything to me since I've asserted your anecdotal stories are already not believable.