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I lived in Banker's Hill in 2010 and even then you could get to everything you needed via walking and bus. With ridesharing, scooters and better public transit

I lived in Banker's Hill in 2010 and even then you could get to everything you needed via walking and bus. With ridesharing, scooters and better public transit it is possible to go sans-car.

blackflame7000 7y ago
You lived in perhaps the most central part of San Diego so I'm not sure your experience is really representative. People in Escondido and vista cannot ride a bus or take a scooter to downtown because it would easily take half their day.
- CalRobert 7y ago
  Those people are not in San Diego.
  - bobthecowboy 7y ago
    They certainly commute into San Diego and are part of the the SD Metro area.
    - ivalm 7y ago
      Sure, and these people will now have opportunity to live closer to their workplace thanks to higher density housing.
      - blackflame7000 7y ago
        A lot of people like living there because they can own land. I think you underestimate how many Americans would prefer land over a high-rise.
        CalRobert 7y ago
        And the other Americans, in cities, are sick of subsidizing their commute.
        ivalm 7y ago
        If they are making a choice of having a longer commute when a shorter one is available then it's hard for me to feel bad for them when their commute becomes even longer. Mixed use zoning makes commute shorter for most people, if someone chooses to live far away and gets punished for it then that's fair game.
- bobthecowboy 7y ago
  Escondido to Downtown has gotten a lot better in the last couple years. There's a bus that runs from Escondido Transit to Downtown via the HOV lane, making only (I believe) two stops along the way. Google maps says it takes just over an hour, if you want to arrive at 9am. Esco to UTC takes a few minutes longer, but adds a transfer and an 8 minute walk. Given that's pretty close to the driving commute times anyway, it's not that bad.

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I lived in Banker's Hill in 2010 and even then you could get to everything you needed via walking and bus. With ridesharing, scooters and better public transit

by arthurjj 7y ago

I lived in Banker's Hill in 2010 and even then you could get to everything you needed via walking and bus. With ridesharing, scooters and better public transit it is possible to go sans-car.

blackflame7000 7y ago
You lived in perhaps the most central part of San Diego so I'm not sure your experience is really representative. People in Escondido and vista cannot ride a bus or take a scooter to downtown because it would easily take half their day.
- CalRobert 7y ago
  Those people are not in San Diego.
  - bobthecowboy 7y ago
    They certainly commute into San Diego and are part of the the SD Metro area.
    - ivalm 7y ago
      Sure, and these people will now have opportunity to live closer to their workplace thanks to higher density housing.
      - blackflame7000 7y ago
        A lot of people like living there because they can own land. I think you underestimate how many Americans would prefer land over a high-rise.
        CalRobert 7y ago
        And the other Americans, in cities, are sick of subsidizing their commute.
        ivalm 7y ago
        If they are making a choice of having a longer commute when a shorter one is available then it's hard for me to feel bad for them when their commute becomes even longer. Mixed use zoning makes commute shorter for most people, if someone chooses to live far away and gets punished for it then that's fair game.
- bobthecowboy 7y ago
  Escondido to Downtown has gotten a lot better in the last couple years. There's a bus that runs from Escondido Transit to Downtown via the HOV lane, making only (I believe) two stops along the way. Google maps says it takes just over an hour, if you want to arrive at 9am. Esco to UTC takes a few minutes longer, but adds a transfer and an 8 minute walk. Given that's pretty close to the driving commute times anyway, it's not that bad.