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I think number fudging goes on all the time, China probably a little bit worse, but then in the end the number has to come from somewhere. It's easy to fudge a
by Aperocky 7y ago
I think number fudging goes on all the time, China probably a little bit worse, but then in the end the number has to come from somewhere. It's easy to fudge a single year worth of data but then it gets progressively harder. So while we should take all numbers with a grain of salt, the long term number will eventually reflect reality.
- dragonelite 7y agoThose pm2.5 number can be easily verified by others,just googled on pm2.5 sensors and they cost like 20~50 euros. So i image there's probably a whole community of pollution watchers in China given the health risks associated with air pollution. And the local governments probably don't want more green protests marches.
- Fellshard 7y agoThis hilariously overstates how incentivized individual citizens are to protest, when I would expect the exact opposite given how the Chinese state operates.
- yorwba 7y agoIndividual citizens aren't incentivized to lead a protest (because that will get them arrested), but they're incentivized to participate in a protest while avoiding arrest, because that's usually effective to extract concessions from the government who want to avoid a repeat of the Tiananmen protests. E.g. most recently in Wuhan against a trash incinerator plant too close to a residential area: "At first the Xinzhou district government attempted to calm the unrest. It issued a statement last Wednesday denying that work had started on the incinerator. It said the project hadn't even been registered, nor had it gone through any environmental assessment." https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-48904350 https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-48904350