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Would be nice to have a tl;Dr for us folks on mobile - I enjoy this kind of stuff very much but for some reason it felt like a drag getting to the point Would

Would be nice to have a tl;Dr for us folks on mobile - I enjoy this kind of stuff very much but for some reason it felt like a drag getting to the point Would be great to have seen some code examples of before/ after straight away perhaps Product seems neat I will look into giving it a go on my side projects

majkinetor 7y ago
I think this could be best described as TL;DR generation. I guess article could be more to the point but again, there is freedom of speech and stuff, we don't have all to comfort to the same paradigm so it hardly deserves a rant.
progapandist 7y ago
Thank you for the feedback! I miss those beautiful days when people could read 6 paragraphs of text before getting bored, but I see your point! There's a link to GitHub readme in paragraph one, for those who want to get straight to the code.
- desc 7y ago
  I was introduced to an important rule re. giving presentations when I was still at school: 1. Tell them what you're going to tell them. 2. Then tell them. 3. Then tell them what you told them. Open with a clear introduction, no more than a few sentences, which covers everything at a high level and sets the scene. Then go through points in a logical order in as much detail as necessary. Finally, summarise as necessary to tie together all the points and link them back to the introduction. If someone has to read six paragraphs just to work out what the hell you're selling then you're doing it wrong. But that will be your cost, not theirs.
- nullandvoid 7y ago
  Being snarky to someone who is giving cc and stating how they want to give your product a try is a sure fire way to not make me want to give it a try
  - progapandist 7y ago
    Not snarky at all, thank you for considering our product!
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    - bigwavedave 7y ago
      > I miss those beautiful days when people could read 6 paragraphs of text without getting bored > Not snarky at all! This is clearly snarky; you're putting someone down by asserting they don't have the attention span to read six paragraphs and that they'd understand if they did. In reality, I read the whole thing and didn't actually get the point until the very end, which has been echoed by more than a few comments here. When offered constructive criticism to improve the presentation of a project, it's been my experience that poking at the commenter in a condescending manner is a great way to drive off potential users. Whether you intended it this way or not (I believe you did, but mostly because I myself have to work hard from being defensively aggressive) is moot- this is how it was received by each of us who have commented on this specific thread, so be aware of this in the future.
      - tanseydavid 7y ago
        The OP also responded: "but I see your point." Not snarky.
- daveFNbuck 7y ago
  I skimmed the post trying to figure out what it does and the only hint I got was when it mentioned being faster than localhost. I came to the HN comments to see if anyone would mention what it's for. Seeing your comment, I decided to read through it more carefully. I read the first 14 paragraphs several times trying to figure out what lefthook does. It wasn't until after writing most of this reply that I realized your post went on longer than that, as the picture right before round one looks like the start of a comment thread. Certainly I should have some idea of what your product does that far in to the article.
draw_down 7y ago
> Would be nice to have a tl;Dr for us folks on mobile Pre-commit hooks.

majkinetor 7y ago

I think this could be best described as TL;DR generation. I guess article could be more to the point but again, there is freedom of speech and stuff, we don't have all to comfort to the same paradigm so it hardly deserves a rant.

progapandist 7y ago

Thank you for the feedback! I miss those beautiful days when people could read 6 paragraphs of text before getting bored, but I see your point! There's a link to GitHub readme in paragraph one, for those who want to get straight to the code.

desc 7y ago
I was introduced to an important rule re. giving presentations when I was still at school: 1. Tell them what you're going to tell them. 2. Then tell them. 3. Then tell them what you told them. Open with a clear introduction, no more than a few sentences, which covers everything at a high level and sets the scene. Then go through points in a logical order in as much detail as necessary. Finally, summarise as necessary to tie together all the points and link them back to the introduction. If someone has to read six paragraphs just to work out what the hell you're selling then you're doing it wrong. But that will be your cost, not theirs.
nullandvoid 7y ago
Being snarky to someone who is giving cc and stating how they want to give your product a try is a sure fire way to not make me want to give it a try
- progapandist 7y ago
  Not snarky at all, thank you for considering our product!
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  - bigwavedave 7y ago
    > I miss those beautiful days when people could read 6 paragraphs of text without getting bored > Not snarky at all! This is clearly snarky; you're putting someone down by asserting they don't have the attention span to read six paragraphs and that they'd understand if they did. In reality, I read the whole thing and didn't actually get the point until the very end, which has been echoed by more than a few comments here. When offered constructive criticism to improve the presentation of a project, it's been my experience that poking at the commenter in a condescending manner is a great way to drive off potential users. Whether you intended it this way or not (I believe you did, but mostly because I myself have to work hard from being defensively aggressive) is moot- this is how it was received by each of us who have commented on this specific thread, so be aware of this in the future.
    - tanseydavid 7y ago
      The OP also responded: "but I see your point." Not snarky.
daveFNbuck 7y ago
I skimmed the post trying to figure out what it does and the only hint I got was when it mentioned being faster than localhost. I came to the HN comments to see if anyone would mention what it's for. Seeing your comment, I decided to read through it more carefully. I read the first 14 paragraphs several times trying to figure out what lefthook does. It wasn't until after writing most of this reply that I realized your post went on longer than that, as the picture right before round one looks like the start of a comment thread. Certainly I should have some idea of what your product does that far in to the article.

draw_down 7y ago

> Would be nice to have a tl;Dr for us folks on mobile Pre-commit hooks.