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This is apparently for improving the performance of Wine emulator on Linux mainly, not native Linux games like the headline suggests.

by sedatk 7y ago

rbanffy 7y ago
Would it be useful to native programs?
- Someone1234 7y ago
  Wine is a native program, so yes. But it is a niche facility that Wine benefits from, and other programs that handle a lot of locks/queues also do, but may not directly benefit Linux native game performance.
- ufo 7y ago
  Valve's post suggests that they believe this to be the case, although they didn't explain the specific details. > We think that if this feature (or an equivalent) was adopted upstream, we would achieve efficiency gains by adopting it in native massively-threaded applications such as Steam and the Source 2 engine.
  - rbanffy 7y ago
    I got that. I intended to go for "actually useful".
    - kbenson 7y ago
      Source 2 has a linux port I believe, and it's an engine that other games could (do?) use to get easy linux support for a lot of their codebase. I think that counts for actually useful. Depending on what they mean by "massively-threaded", that might cover some other popular network applications that thread to handle requests, but I'm not sure how much work they would put into a linux specific solution if it complicated their codebase.
      - mirashii 7y ago
        > (do?) Indeed. See Dota 2.
      - rbanffy 7y ago
        It occurred to me that a message passing OO language that mapped every active object (that's responding to a message) to a thread could benefit from it.
tambre 7y ago
> Wine emulator Wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator".
- MadSudaca 7y ago
  The Wine is Not an Emulator emulator
  - waterhouse 7y ago
    Yeah, seriously. It's not emulating a processor, but it is emulating an API. I think the only reason it's not called Windows Emulator is (probably well-founded) concern about getting sued for trademark violation. Citation with detailed history: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13476390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13476390

This is apparently for improving the performance of Wine emulator on Linux mainly, not native Linux games like the headline suggests.

by sedatk 7y ago

This is apparently for improving the performance of Wine emulator on Linux mainly, not native Linux games like the headline suggests.

rbanffy 7y ago

Would it be useful to native programs?

Someone1234 7y ago
Wine is a native program, so yes. But it is a niche facility that Wine benefits from, and other programs that handle a lot of locks/queues also do, but may not directly benefit Linux native game performance.
ufo 7y ago
Valve's post suggests that they believe this to be the case, although they didn't explain the specific details. > We think that if this feature (or an equivalent) was adopted upstream, we would achieve efficiency gains by adopting it in native massively-threaded applications such as Steam and the Source 2 engine.
- rbanffy 7y ago
  I got that. I intended to go for "actually useful".
  - kbenson 7y ago
    Source 2 has a linux port I believe, and it's an engine that other games could (do?) use to get easy linux support for a lot of their codebase. I think that counts for actually useful. Depending on what they mean by "massively-threaded", that might cover some other popular network applications that thread to handle requests, but I'm not sure how much work they would put into a linux specific solution if it complicated their codebase.
    - mirashii 7y ago
      > (do?) Indeed. See Dota 2.
    - rbanffy 7y ago
      It occurred to me that a message passing OO language that mapped every active object (that's responding to a message) to a thread could benefit from it.

tambre 7y ago

> Wine emulator Wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator".

MadSudaca 7y ago
The Wine is Not an Emulator emulator
- waterhouse 7y ago
  Yeah, seriously. It's not emulating a processor, but it is emulating an API. I think the only reason it's not called Windows Emulator is (probably well-founded) concern about getting sued for trademark violation. Citation with detailed history: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13476390 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13476390