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Right, just pointing out that the media often uses the term "free" when referring to public programs that workers pay for with their tax dollars. It is deceptiv

Right, just pointing out that the media often uses the term "free" when referring to public programs that workers pay for with their tax dollars. It is deceptive.

mrlala 7y ago
I still don't understand why you are pointing this out? You seem to be the one hung up on the word free. It IS FREE when using the public program- and that's what people want. Calling the police when you need help is free- I don't care how it's been funded. When I need it, I don't need to think about a cost whatsoever. If you are a disabled person who has never been able to work in your entire life and has never been able to pay a dime in taxes.. yet you are able to use all of these public programs, that is completely 100% free, right? You say the media is being deceptive when using free.. no, you know what they mean by free, so if anything I would call you the 'deceptive' one because you are intentionally making the discussion more complicated by getting so hung up on semantics. What everyone in this entire planet wants is to be able to get healthcare when they NEED it and not worry about the cost. So they want FREE healthcare. If you still have a hard time with this concept then just think about free as in "use". If using something means you don't have to think about the cost, then using it is free. Was it funded by someone somewhere? Well no shit- you can put a 'cost' on anything no matter what it is. Next you will tell me free healthcare isn't free because you need to drive yourself to the doctor, or take a bus. And that costs money. So it's not free anymore! Scandal!
- 11235853211 7y ago
  You've made my point. It may not incur a personal cost at the time of use, but it incurs a cost regardless. I have no problem understanding, I am the subject of the article. I have medical debt, and I would prefer a public healthcare system to one that charges consumers thousands for a single ambulance ride. They call it public or socialized healthcare in nations where it is instituted. There is no such thing as "free healthcare" because workers need to be paid and supplies need to be purchased. Many conservatives will conflate "free" with "undeserved". And yes, personal transport costs add up when you are in that state and every dollar counts. It is deceptive to call something free when it actually costs a lot of money.
  - mrlala 7y ago
    >You've made my point. It may not incur a personal cost at the time of use, but it incurs a cost regardless. You really think that made your point? Wow you are really really really trying to never let anyone use the word free aren't you? By your logic of ultra stretching- nothing whatsoever anywhere in the universe is free. We can ALWAYS put a cost on something. So that means we should never use the word free? My kid opens up a lemonade stand and puts "FREE LEMONADE!" on it. I bet you are going to go to her and talk about how it's not really free, because you had to use energy to walk up and get some. She went into her parents fridge and got some lemons and did all the work to squeeze them and make your drink. You know what "free" means. But ok go ahead and pretend not to know.

Right, just pointing out that the media often uses the term "free" when referring to public programs that workers pay for with their tax dollars. It is deceptive.

mrlala 7y ago

I still don't understand why you are pointing this out? You seem to be the one hung up on the word free. It IS FREE when using the public program- and that's what people want. Calling the police when you need help is free- I don't care how it's been funded. When I need it, I don't need to think about a cost whatsoever. If you are a disabled person who has never been able to work in your entire life and has never been able to pay a dime in taxes.. yet you are able to use all of these public programs, that is completely 100% free, right? You say the media is being deceptive when using free.. no, you know what they mean by free, so if anything I would call you the 'deceptive' one because you are intentionally making the discussion more complicated by getting so hung up on semantics. What everyone in this entire planet wants is to be able to get healthcare when they NEED it and not worry about the cost. So they want FREE healthcare. If you still have a hard time with this concept then just think about free as in "use". If using something means you don't have to think about the cost, then using it is free. Was it funded by someone somewhere? Well no shit- you can put a 'cost' on anything no matter what it is. Next you will tell me free healthcare isn't free because you need to drive yourself to the doctor, or take a bus. And that costs money. So it's not free anymore! Scandal!

11235853211 7y ago
You've made my point. It may not incur a personal cost at the time of use, but it incurs a cost regardless. I have no problem understanding, I am the subject of the article. I have medical debt, and I would prefer a public healthcare system to one that charges consumers thousands for a single ambulance ride. They call it public or socialized healthcare in nations where it is instituted. There is no such thing as "free healthcare" because workers need to be paid and supplies need to be purchased. Many conservatives will conflate "free" with "undeserved". And yes, personal transport costs add up when you are in that state and every dollar counts. It is deceptive to call something free when it actually costs a lot of money.
- mrlala 7y ago
  >You've made my point. It may not incur a personal cost at the time of use, but it incurs a cost regardless. You really think that made your point? Wow you are really really really trying to never let anyone use the word free aren't you? By your logic of ultra stretching- nothing whatsoever anywhere in the universe is free. We can ALWAYS put a cost on something. So that means we should never use the word free? My kid opens up a lemonade stand and puts "FREE LEMONADE!" on it. I bet you are going to go to her and talk about how it's not really free, because you had to use energy to walk up and get some. She went into her parents fridge and got some lemons and did all the work to squeeze them and make your drink. You know what "free" means. But ok go ahead and pretend not to know.