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> Yet Norway is about as safe as Japan Norway was has a murder rate 2.5x that of Japan[1]. Norway is considerably less safe than Japan, albeit still very safe

> Yet Norway is about as safe as Japan Norway was has a murder rate 2.5x that of Japan[1]. Norway is considerably less safe than Japan, albeit still very safe by global standards. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...

nosuchuser2 7y ago
Japan's official murder rate is widely believed to be significantly underreported.
- CountSessine 7y ago
  <citation required>
  - mullen 7y ago
    https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police/ https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police... https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-unreported/ https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-u... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-legal/osaka-police-failed-to-report-81000-crimes-between-2008-and-2012-probe/#.XUHl5JNKiL4 https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-... Japan also has a huge issue with people admitting to crimes they did not commit. https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system-carlos-ghosn-arrest-nissan-kelly https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system... https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572
    - CountSessine 7y ago
      https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police.. https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police.... https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-u.. https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-u.... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-.. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-.... Japan also has a huge issue with people admitting to crimes they did not commit. https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system.. https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system.... https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572* https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572* @nosuchuser2 said, "Japan's official murder rate is widely believed to be significantly underreported" in response to someone noting that Norway's murder rate is 2.5x Japan's murder rate. None of the articles you linked to even mentions an elevated or misreported murder rate. Instead you linked to articles suggesting that sex crimes are underreported. Sex crimes are actually underreported in just about every industrialized country, US included. Given that the official murder statistics are what they are, citation is still required

nosuchuser2 7y ago

Japan's official murder rate is widely believed to be significantly underreported.

CountSessine 7y ago
<citation required>
- mullen 7y ago
  https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police/ https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police... https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-unreported/ https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-u... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-legal/osaka-police-failed-to-report-81000-crimes-between-2008-and-2012-probe/#.XUHl5JNKiL4 https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-... Japan also has a huge issue with people admitting to crimes they did not commit. https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system-carlos-ghosn-arrest-nissan-kelly https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system... https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572
  - CountSessine 7y ago
    https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police.. https://www.tokyoreview.net/2017/08/myth-japans-bored-police.... https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-u.. https://www.tokyoweekender.com/2017/06/sex-crimes-japan-go-u.... https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-.. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/07/31/national/crime-.... Japan also has a huge issue with people admitting to crimes they did not commit. https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system.. https://www.france24.com/en/20181207-japan-justice-99-system.... https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572* https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20810572* @nosuchuser2 said, "Japan's official murder rate is widely believed to be significantly underreported" in response to someone noting that Norway's murder rate is 2.5x Japan's murder rate. None of the articles you linked to even mentions an elevated or misreported murder rate. Instead you linked to articles suggesting that sex crimes are underreported. Sex crimes are actually underreported in just about every industrialized country, US included. Given that the official murder statistics are what they are, citation is still required