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The Fiat 500e has been in production since 2013 (by Chrysler, in Mexico), but due to weird regulatory incentives, is only for sale in California and Oregon.

by jpm_sd 7y ago

BurningFrog 7y ago
I think they lose money on every car, but are required to sell a certain percentage of them to remain on those markets.
- mikeash 7y ago
  Often called a “compliance car.” Any electric car produced in low numbers and only sold in certain states is probably being sold at a loss to meet some efficiency, emissions, or electrification target in the law.
- rconti 7y ago
  I'm aware of at least 100 people that took advantage of a screaming good lease deal on them a few years back, that was ~$80/month with 0 down for 3 years. They were desperate to move them. The deal was absolutely insane, though. Given the cost savings on fuel, it was virtually a free car, and that's before you even factor in other kinds of savings.
Reason077 7y ago
There is an all-new electric Fiat 500, based on a new electric-only platform, in development for a 2020 release. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/all-new-electric-fiat-500-spied-testing-ahead-2020-reveal https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-...
- jpm_sd 7y ago
  Interesting. The existing version uses stock powertrain components from Bosch that are common to several other small EVs. I wonder if they have developed a new lower cost system internally.
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outworlder 7y ago
> The Fiat 500e has been in production since 2013 (by Chrysler, in Mexico), but due to weird regulatory incentives, is only for sale in California and Oregon. You mean, due to it being a compliance car only? Fiat actively discourages people from buying them - or at least the CEO does/did. https://insideevs.com/news/353886/kbb-secures-amazing-deal-fiat-500e/ https://insideevs.com/news/353886/kbb-secures-amazing-deal-f...

The Fiat 500e has been in production since 2013 (by Chrysler, in Mexico), but due to weird regulatory incentives, is only for sale in California and Oregon.

by jpm_sd 7y ago

The Fiat 500e has been in production since 2013 (by Chrysler, in Mexico), but due to weird regulatory incentives, is only for sale in California and Oregon.

BurningFrog 7y ago

I think they lose money on every car, but are required to sell a certain percentage of them to remain on those markets.

mikeash 7y ago
Often called a “compliance car.” Any electric car produced in low numbers and only sold in certain states is probably being sold at a loss to meet some efficiency, emissions, or electrification target in the law.
rconti 7y ago
I'm aware of at least 100 people that took advantage of a screaming good lease deal on them a few years back, that was ~$80/month with 0 down for 3 years. They were desperate to move them. The deal was absolutely insane, though. Given the cost savings on fuel, it was virtually a free car, and that's before you even factor in other kinds of savings.

Reason077 7y ago

There is an all-new electric Fiat 500, based on a new electric-only platform, in development for a 2020 release. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-show/all-new-electric-fiat-500-spied-testing-ahead-2020-reveal https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-geneva-motor-...

jpm_sd 7y ago
Interesting. The existing version uses stock powertrain components from Bosch that are common to several other small EVs. I wonder if they have developed a new lower cost system internally.

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outworlder 7y ago

> The Fiat 500e has been in production since 2013 (by Chrysler, in Mexico), but due to weird regulatory incentives, is only for sale in California and Oregon. You mean, due to it being a compliance car only? Fiat actively discourages people from buying them - or at least the CEO does/did. https://insideevs.com/news/353886/kbb-secures-amazing-deal-fiat-500e/ https://insideevs.com/news/353886/kbb-secures-amazing-deal-f...