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You left out many important details in this story: 1. Did you have health insurance? If not, why? 2. What was your job previously? 3. Who signed the paper re

You left out many important details in this story: 1. Did you have health insurance? If not, why? 2. What was your job previously? 3. Who signed the paper relinquishing the hospital of all responsibility of botching the surgery?

hestipod 7y ago
Important details to someone looking to twist things to blame me for the outcome. But I will answer even though I know your questions aren't meant with any good intent AND they display victim blaming from the outset. But I have a small hope you can learn empathy. Frankly responses like this, which are the bulk I have experienced IRL...are why I am so depressed and have no hope...and reinforce my view of the empathy problem. 1. Yes I had health insurance, lost it when I lost my career as a result of the surgeries. This wasn't some case of someone refusing to get it and then getting burned so this THEIR fault as you infer. 2. Public safety helping others...I don't want to get more specific due to privacy...but this is also irrelevant. Whether unemployed, with a respected job, or with a high paying job...nobody deserves to be left behind by society. 3. I signed the paper. The paper you HAVE to sign to get the surgery you are up for. I know what you are trying to say with that and I find it cruel and lacking in the smallest compassion. You have no choice. Sign or leave. It's another part of the problem. I won't go back and forth with you. Probably shouldn't even have answered these. But there it is. Now you can tell me why I am wrong and what I NEED to do now to fix it. It's a script I've heard 1000 times. But it's never true.
- AstralStorm 7y ago
  In EU you have a right to amend an unconscionable contract. People use it all the time to not sign stupid clauses in bank. Additionally, a hospital here cannot disclaim health damage (and other damages) due to poorly performed procedure. The thing is, sometimes even well performed procedures are not enough. Finally, since critical health care is insured by state and therefore stupid charges like in the US rarely happen, but you might get kicked out slightly early and get poorer bed and care without extras. Acceptable still. People in the US just really do not want to believe luck is a factor. Victim is always blamed one way or another. Even if any of the 3 above was not met, the follow up question of "why" often reveals "I couldn't afford anything better" or "I was not given advice". Someone who is ignorant is not too be blamed, people are ignorant of all things before they actually happen to them.

hestipod 7y ago

Important details to someone looking to twist things to blame me for the outcome. But I will answer even though I know your questions aren't meant with any good intent AND they display victim blaming from the outset. But I have a small hope you can learn empathy. Frankly responses like this, which are the bulk I have experienced IRL...are why I am so depressed and have no hope...and reinforce my view of the empathy problem. 1. Yes I had health insurance, lost it when I lost my career as a result of the surgeries. This wasn't some case of someone refusing to get it and then getting burned so this THEIR fault as you infer. 2. Public safety helping others...I don't want to get more specific due to privacy...but this is also irrelevant. Whether unemployed, with a respected job, or with a high paying job...nobody deserves to be left behind by society. 3. I signed the paper. The paper you HAVE to sign to get the surgery you are up for. I know what you are trying to say with that and I find it cruel and lacking in the smallest compassion. You have no choice. Sign or leave. It's another part of the problem. I won't go back and forth with you. Probably shouldn't even have answered these. But there it is. Now you can tell me why I am wrong and what I NEED to do now to fix it. It's a script I've heard 1000 times. But it's never true.

AstralStorm 7y ago
In EU you have a right to amend an unconscionable contract. People use it all the time to not sign stupid clauses in bank. Additionally, a hospital here cannot disclaim health damage (and other damages) due to poorly performed procedure. The thing is, sometimes even well performed procedures are not enough. Finally, since critical health care is insured by state and therefore stupid charges like in the US rarely happen, but you might get kicked out slightly early and get poorer bed and care without extras. Acceptable still. People in the US just really do not want to believe luck is a factor. Victim is always blamed one way or another. Even if any of the 3 above was not met, the follow up question of "why" often reveals "I couldn't afford anything better" or "I was not given advice". Someone who is ignorant is not too be blamed, people are ignorant of all things before they actually happen to them.