As with another poster, you are mistaking me advocating for these things, whereas I am just observing. The argument is made that leaving the EU for more or les

As with another poster, you are mistaking me advocating for these things, whereas I am just observing. The argument is made that leaving the EU for more or less tangible feelings around sovereignty, identity etc. is futile because leaving the EU won't deliver changes in those areas. What I'm saying is that I agree it won't on its own deliver changes, but that it at least opens the door to changes in those areas. However, genuine change would require a political party to offer genuine controls on migration, for example, which none of the major parties are offering (Brexit Party arguable). Even Boris is offering an amnesty for illegal migrants already in the UK, and not offering any hope that migration will go down under a points based system. I don't think it's sensible to argue that we are not on the path towards a United States of Europe, and that leaving opens the door to a different future, I mean, why would the fight to keep the UK in be so fierce unless there were a lot at stake? It's futile arguing on the substance with me as if I'm advocating for it, I'm not, I'm just analysing.