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In some places you need a license to wash hair.

by cglace 7y ago

fatbird 7y ago
Because without minimal standards for sterilizing tools, hair dressers can spread lice. Basic licencing requirements give the municipality a chance to ensure that everyone washing hair has been told about basic hygienic standards for washing hair.
- fatbird 7y ago
  Leave it to the HN community to view a lice outbreak as an acceptable price to pay for the freedom of the market.
  - giancarlostoro 7y ago
    It is not necessarily HNs view but the reason for the license.
  - kalleboo 7y ago
    I'm from a western European nation (often referred to as "socialist") with none of that licensing BS and as far as I know we don't have perpetual lice outbreaks.
  - cglace 7y ago
    Are you saying lice outbreaks would not happen if we did not have a free market?
- cglace 7y ago
  To go a step further we probably should license dish washers. To make sure they know the risks of spreading food borne disease.
  - fatbird 7y ago
    Look up Typhoid Mary [0]. We don't licence dish washers because running a restaurant requires adhering to a large body of commercial food safety law that requires the restaurant owner/operator to maintain standards of hygiene. If freelance dish washing were a thing, we probably would licence them. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
    - cglace 7y ago
      Having been a microbiologist in a past life I'm very familiar with Typhoid Mary. I do however think you are attacking a straw man. "Under Board of Cosmetology regulations, an individual “must complete not less than 300 hours of instruction on the theory and practice of shampooing” at an approved school. That instruction includes how to answer the phone, order products, information about the composition of shampoos, and on the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s rules governing hair salons." Would you approve of dishwashers needing 300 hours of training on ordering soap, answering phones, waiting tables, and washing hands?
      - fatbird 7y ago
        You ignored the substance of my point: a dishwasher is an employee of a licenced/regulated business operator, who is answerable to a regulatory regime. The state has a regulatory handle on the dishwasher already, and doesn't need to licence them or force them to take training to ensure minimal standards. Cosmetologists are usually independent contractors and are the responsible party, equivalent in legal terms to the restaurant owner/operator, not the dishwasher.
        cglace 7y ago
        I understand what you are saying. However, I believe your conclusion is absurd. Considering most of the US does not require licensing for a "shampoo technician", it would appear you are arguing for something that is currently a fringe practice to become mainstream. Is that correct? Also, a cosmetologist and a shampoo technician are two distinct positions.
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In some places you need a license to wash hair.

by cglace 7y ago

In some places you need a license to wash hair.

Because without minimal standards for sterilizing tools, hair dressers can spread lice. Basic licencing requirements give the municipality a chance to ensure that everyone washing hair has been told about basic hygienic standards for washing hair.

fatbird 7y ago
Leave it to the HN community to view a lice outbreak as an acceptable price to pay for the freedom of the market.
- giancarlostoro 7y ago
  It is not necessarily HNs view but the reason for the license.
- kalleboo 7y ago
  I'm from a western European nation (often referred to as "socialist") with none of that licensing BS and as far as I know we don't have perpetual lice outbreaks.
- cglace 7y ago
  Are you saying lice outbreaks would not happen if we did not have a free market?
cglace 7y ago
To go a step further we probably should license dish washers. To make sure they know the risks of spreading food borne disease.
- fatbird 7y ago
  Look up Typhoid Mary [0]. We don't licence dish washers because running a restaurant requires adhering to a large body of commercial food safety law that requires the restaurant owner/operator to maintain standards of hygiene. If freelance dish washing were a thing, we probably would licence them. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Mallon
  - cglace 7y ago
    Having been a microbiologist in a past life I'm very familiar with Typhoid Mary. I do however think you are attacking a straw man. "Under Board of Cosmetology regulations, an individual “must complete not less than 300 hours of instruction on the theory and practice of shampooing” at an approved school. That instruction includes how to answer the phone, order products, information about the composition of shampoos, and on the Occupational Safety and Health Administration’s rules governing hair salons." Would you approve of dishwashers needing 300 hours of training on ordering soap, answering phones, waiting tables, and washing hands?
    - fatbird 7y ago
      You ignored the substance of my point: a dishwasher is an employee of a licenced/regulated business operator, who is answerable to a regulatory regime. The state has a regulatory handle on the dishwasher already, and doesn't need to licence them or force them to take training to ensure minimal standards. Cosmetologists are usually independent contractors and are the responsible party, equivalent in legal terms to the restaurant owner/operator, not the dishwasher.
      - cglace 7y ago
        I understand what you are saying. However, I believe your conclusion is absurd. Considering most of the US does not require licensing for a "shampoo technician", it would appear you are arguing for something that is currently a fringe practice to become mainstream. Is that correct? Also, a cosmetologist and a shampoo technician are two distinct positions.
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