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Your conjecture is not factual, but rather represents beliefs that are not held by an overwhelming majority in the United States.

slang800 7y ago
Are you talking about the idea of a military as a whole, or the wars that were involved in right now?
- munificent 7y ago
  I'm just suggesting that when the military is actively engaged in operations that many people dislike, that has an impact on the quantity and caliber of people that are interested in being part of it.
munificent 7y ago
According to 538, the Gulf War and the war in Afghanistan are the most unpopular wars in US history, except for Vietnam which is #1. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-americans-agree-that-wwii-was-justified-recent-conflicts-are-more-divisive/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-americans-agree-th...
- drevil-v2 7y ago
  According to 538 Hillary was going to win in a landslide too
  - sgustard 7y ago
    False, https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gave-trump-a-better-chance-than-almost-anyone-else/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gav...
    - JetSpiegel 7y ago
      They were wrong by less, but still wrong.
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- nl 7y ago
  Firstly, that chat doesn't measure popularity, it measures "how justified were they". Also, I think that a honest reading of that chart would be that there is the Vietnam War (with very low justification), WW2 (with high justification) and then two subgroups: WW1 & Civil War with moderate justification, and Korea, Gulf War 1 and Afghanistan with lower levels, but still significant levels of justification.
- i_am_proteus 7y ago
  Popularity of conflicts du jour and opinion of the military as a valuable enterprise in general are different. For instance, I joined and served in the military during the second Iraq war despite disapproving of the invasion. This holds especially for career civil servants, as political winds shift and one may not always agree with the policies of the current government. One does not serve because the nation is perfect, one serves to strengthen the nation and to have the opportunity to make it better for future generations.
  - Teever 7y ago
    > For instance, I joined and served in the military during the second Iraq war despite disapproving of the invasion. And after your experiences would you recommend the same path to your children if they were thinking of doing the same?
    - i_am_proteus 7y ago
      I would, to the best extent possible, educate my children as to what military service actually entailed, and then I would let them make the decision based on their values and life goals.

slang800 7y ago

Are you talking about the idea of a military as a whole, or the wars that were involved in right now?

munificent 7y ago
I'm just suggesting that when the military is actively engaged in operations that many people dislike, that has an impact on the quantity and caliber of people that are interested in being part of it.

munificent 7y ago

According to 538, the Gulf War and the war in Afghanistan are the most unpopular wars in US history, except for Vietnam which is #1. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-americans-agree-that-wwii-was-justified-recent-conflicts-are-more-divisive/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/most-americans-agree-th...

drevil-v2 7y ago
According to 538 Hillary was going to win in a landslide too
- sgustard 7y ago
  False, https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gave-trump-a-better-chance-than-almost-anyone-else/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-fivethirtyeight-gav...
  - JetSpiegel 7y ago
    They were wrong by less, but still wrong.
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nl 7y ago
Firstly, that chat doesn't measure popularity, it measures "how justified were they". Also, I think that a honest reading of that chart would be that there is the Vietnam War (with very low justification), WW2 (with high justification) and then two subgroups: WW1 & Civil War with moderate justification, and Korea, Gulf War 1 and Afghanistan with lower levels, but still significant levels of justification.
i_am_proteus 7y ago
Popularity of conflicts du jour and opinion of the military as a valuable enterprise in general are different. For instance, I joined and served in the military during the second Iraq war despite disapproving of the invasion. This holds especially for career civil servants, as political winds shift and one may not always agree with the policies of the current government. One does not serve because the nation is perfect, one serves to strengthen the nation and to have the opportunity to make it better for future generations.
- Teever 7y ago
  > For instance, I joined and served in the military during the second Iraq war despite disapproving of the invasion. And after your experiences would you recommend the same path to your children if they were thinking of doing the same?
  - i_am_proteus 7y ago
    I would, to the best extent possible, educate my children as to what military service actually entailed, and then I would let them make the decision based on their values and life goals.