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I'm an Apple shareholder...biggest concern with driving "services" is that the 30% commission on in-app purchases is borderline obscene and I don't think longte

I'm an Apple shareholder...biggest concern with driving "services" is that the 30% commission on in-app purchases is borderline obscene and I don't think longterm sustainable e.g. if the tech regulation hammer is pointed at Apple, regulation around the App Store, including limits on Apple's commission, would make the most sense.

thstart 7y ago
So - shareholders better stay away from explaining business matters. You have no idea about the value the 30% brings.
keymone 7y ago
it's a tax. as long as apple's walled garden is so much better than anything else - no reason to worry.
- Mindwipe 7y ago
  If you're an Apple shareholder I would be very worried about anti-trust concerns on this point in Europe especially but also the US. I would actively price in this going away in Europe, never mind being a risk.
- marticode 7y ago
  The EU is already investigating Apple management of the App Store. Regulation is coming and one has to wonder much walled and profitable the garden will stay.
  - trilila 7y ago
    The EU is investigating an awful lot of US companies.
    - thrower123 7y ago
      The EU would need to demonstrate that it's teeth are sharp and big enough to actually break the skin on those companies. Most likely result is Apple/Google/Amazon/Facebook buy them off for some trivial (for them anyway) amount of money.
      - trilila 7y ago
        Just like German car makers bought the EU, in exchange for protectionist measures and to get away with emissions that have destroyed a continent's climate? How come the EU is not looking more inwards, or into Chinese company practices, but instead it focuses on American tech giants? Politics perhaps?
      - marticode 7y ago
        Apple has had a 13 billion Euro tax bill out of it. Google is adding browser and search selection in Android in a pro-active move. I would say this is certainly a show of teeth.
  - skrowl 7y ago
    Apple is going to be forced to allow other app stores onto their phone like Android does (although Android did it without any laws forcing them to).
tonyedgecombe 7y ago
The App Store is awash with stuff, I don't think the 30% charge is hurting them at all. In fact I expect they are wondering why they didn't start higher.
tinus_hn 7y ago
The 30% seems higher than it is if you factor in the discounts people can get on iTunes cards, which is up to 15%.

thstart 7y ago

So - shareholders better stay away from explaining business matters. You have no idea about the value the 30% brings.

keymone 7y ago

it's a tax. as long as apple's walled garden is so much better than anything else - no reason to worry.

Mindwipe 7y ago
If you're an Apple shareholder I would be very worried about anti-trust concerns on this point in Europe especially but also the US. I would actively price in this going away in Europe, never mind being a risk.
marticode 7y ago
The EU is already investigating Apple management of the App Store. Regulation is coming and one has to wonder much walled and profitable the garden will stay.
- trilila 7y ago
  The EU is investigating an awful lot of US companies.
  - thrower123 7y ago
    The EU would need to demonstrate that it's teeth are sharp and big enough to actually break the skin on those companies. Most likely result is Apple/Google/Amazon/Facebook buy them off for some trivial (for them anyway) amount of money.
    - trilila 7y ago
      Just like German car makers bought the EU, in exchange for protectionist measures and to get away with emissions that have destroyed a continent's climate? How come the EU is not looking more inwards, or into Chinese company practices, but instead it focuses on American tech giants? Politics perhaps?
    - marticode 7y ago
      Apple has had a 13 billion Euro tax bill out of it. Google is adding browser and search selection in Android in a pro-active move. I would say this is certainly a show of teeth.
- skrowl 7y ago
  Apple is going to be forced to allow other app stores onto their phone like Android does (although Android did it without any laws forcing them to).

tonyedgecombe 7y ago

The App Store is awash with stuff, I don't think the 30% charge is hurting them at all. In fact I expect they are wondering why they didn't start higher.

tinus_hn 7y ago

The 30% seems higher than it is if you factor in the discounts people can get on iTunes cards, which is up to 15%.