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I don’t even mind the touchbar. Just give me back the Escape key!
by noncoml 7y ago
I don’t even mind the touchbar. Just give me back the Escape key!
- hanniabu 7y agoThey removed the escape key? What the..... I'm never going to retire my 2013 MBP at this rate.
- ses1984 7y agoIt's very easy to remap caps lock to escape.
- computerex 7y agoThat's not the point. You shouldn't have to map caps lock to escape.
- ses1984 7y agoWhy not, it's better anyway?
- computerex 7y agoYou are entitled to your opinion. Don't thrust it onto others.
- rdgddgdrgdr 7y agoFucking IRONY right here
- thaumasiotes 7y agoBecause caps lock is already remapped to ctrl. :p
- baddox 7y agoThere will always be other potential physical keys that aren't on your laptop keyboard. You could just as easily say that you shouldn't have to use modifier keys to trigger Page Down on a Macbook Pro keyboard. Where's my Print Screen SysRq key?
- ses1984 7y agoOk so why isn't the 2012 mbp hated because it doesn't have that key?
- computerex 7y ago2012 MBP has the escape key.
- ses1984 7y agoIt doesn't have print screen / sysreq, why is that OK?
- computerex 7y agoBecause those keys are not used nearly as often as escape. And because osx has a different keyboard shortcut for screenshots so the print screen key is largely irrelevant.
- ses1984 7y agoThe reasons you listed are largely why I don't care that the escape key is gone from where it was.
- SomeOldThrow 7y agoIf only it were so easy to remap my hand! Caps lock is already dedicated to control and most apps don’t support ^[.
- ses1984 7y agoOk then it you have caps remapped to ctrl, remap ctrl to escape. There are many valid criticisms of the touch bar macs, losing one key in particular is pretty low on the list.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago> i[f] you have caps remapped to ctrl, remap ctrl to escape The whole reason to remap caps lock to ctrl is that ctrl is in a terrible location.
- ses1984 7y agoEscape is in a relatively terrible location as well, the default ctrl location is just as bad, hence remapping escape there isn't really worse than escape in the top left.
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- jnevelson 7y agoCheck out Karabiner Elements (https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/ https://pqrs.org/osx/karabiner/). You can create a rule to change caps lock to control if pressed with other keys, else escape if pressed alone. I have no affiliation with it, just ran into this issue myself and it solved it for me.
- Lio 7y agoThat kind of highlights an issue for me though. If Apple were really on the ball with macOS they would have a better remap utility built in. Instead we have Karabiner Elements which has been of mixed stability in my experience. Many times I've had it completely disable the internal keyboard on my late 2013 MBP to the point where I have to plug in a USB keyboard to recover or if on the road do a force power reset.
- noncoml 7y ago“You are holding it wrong”?
- Lio 7y agoNot so much when you already remap the Caps lock key to Ctrl though.
- eanzenberg 7y agoI have an esc key...?
- dkonofalski 7y agoThey didn't remove it, at least not functionally. There's still an ESC, it's just on the Touch Bar now.
- echelon 7y agoThat's not an escape key. Please don't apologize for this. I use vim and switch between a butterfly/touchbar Mac (work machine) and a Thinkpad (personal machine). Using the Mac keyboard has actually negatively impacted my typing speed when I use other systems! I remapped my vim keybindings, and now my muscle memory has atrophied. This dumb machine has actually made me a worse typist. I am so frustrated.
- philwelch 7y agoRemap caps lock to escape. I use vim and I can't stand the "standard" esc key position anymore.
- dkonofalski 7y agoThat sucks for you. I'm able to use it just fine and the Touch Bar is way more functional for me both as a developer and for editing digital media.
- koolba 7y agoI thought this was a joke as I haven’t used a recent Mac in a while but apparently it’s not. There really isn’t an escape key! https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207358 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207358
- Rebelgecko 7y agoIt's extra fun when touchbaragent hangs and you can't force quit anything
- luminiferous 7y agoPersonally, I just remapped capslock to esc, since I never use capslock. The touchbar does seem to hang more often nowadays, though. Especially when I'm trying to adjust the volume.
- Shish2k 7y agoI remapped capslock to escape, which simultaneously gives me back a useful key and gets rid of a useless one :P
- garysahota93 7y agoThey are basically telling us "You can't escape our future"
- eridius 7y agoNot a physical one, but the hit area on the TouchBar for Esc is actually larger than the physical key was. As much as people like to complain, in my experience the Esc key is extremely easy to hit.
- m-p-3 7y agoAt least that, and the idea of making the touchbar an actual tray is a great idea, would like this to be natively done and keep the screen as free as possible for the actual apps. As long as it's optional, I could see people not liking this.
- SomeOldThrow 7y agoAt the minimum I’d like to be able to disable the touch bar. I only ever activate it accidentally and there is zero feedback. I never look at my keys. I really like the fingerprint scanner but it’s not worth the disruption in productivity.
- acchow 7y agoMacOS supports remapping caps lock to escape. No hacks needed!
- Ididntdothis 7y agoAnd take the escape key off the TouchBar. I hit it all the time by accident. I really wanted to give the TouchBar a fair shake but after two months I still think it’s beyond useless.
- neotek 7y agoI feel your pain, it's my number one problem with the Touch Bar, the second being that it's almost entirely useless in its default mode. I have two solutions for you, though: firstly, download BetterTouchTool[1] and install the GoldenChaosBTT[2] preset. It's the killer app for the Touch Bar, it turns it into a genuinely useful feature that you'll find yourself using all the time, and BTT in general is an incredibly powerful tool for customising the way you interact with your Mac. Secondly, switching Caps Lock to the Esc key[3] has been one of the biggest productivity improvements I've made in the last decade, seriously. I wish I'd done it sooner. I've made the switch on every machine I use, even the ones without a Touch Bar. Hope that helps! [1] https://folivora.ai https://folivora.ai [2] https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-a-complete-touch-bar-ui-replacement-preset/1281 https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-a-complete-t... [3] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/127591/using-caps-lock-as-esc-in-mac-os-x https://stackoverflow.com/questions/127591/using-caps-lock-a...
- Ididntdothis 7y agoThanks for the tip. I got BTT and now I only have brightness and volume sliders on the Touch Bar and no escape. Much better. Will probably do some customization but it’s already a big improvement.
- danieldk 7y agoAnd in the default configuration I often hit the Siri button when wanting to press Touch ID or (sometimes) backspace. The TouchBar is nice on paper, actually adds to some applications, but the current implementation is a world of hurt.