> there’s a good chance you’re too late there - they most likely already gave that up a long time ago. People on HN keep using this in a number of contexts as

> there’s a good chance you’re too late there - they most likely already gave that up a long time ago. People on HN keep using this in a number of contexts as an excuse to not even try. I'm tired of it. Maybe we are to late. But if try to avoid failure then at least we have a small chance.