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So it's a mix of Stockholm syndrome and lazyness to change and tweak the system a bit in a more privacy friendly way.

snazz 7y ago
Unlocking the bootloader, flashing TWRP, and installing LineageOS without Google Play Services is roughly equivalent in privacy to an iPhone. I wouldn’t blame my grandma for choosing to buy an iPhone instead!
- lern_too_spel 7y ago
  A phone with Google Play Services collects less data than an iPhone. To wit: Apple knows every app you ever downloaded, and there is nothing you can do about it. Every time you click on an address link, it sends the address to Apple, and there is nothing you can do about it. Any time an app looks up your GPS location, that location is sent to Apple, and there is nothing you can do about it. If you want to write apps for your own device, you need to give card details to Apple, and there is nothing you can do about it. A phone with Google Play services doesn't suffer from any of these problems.
  - jdofaz 7y ago
    How do you stop Google Play services from sending your location to google without disabling Location Services?
    - lern_too_spel 7y ago
      If you disable Location Services, which is an option presented on initial setup of the device, apps can still request the GPS permission directly (the default behavior in most location libraries), not sending your location to Google. This is not possible on iOS. Every location lookup will send your location to Apple.
      - jdofaz 7y ago
        How do you know iOS sends all location lookups to Apple?
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        Because Apple says so. "By enabling Location Services for your devices, you agree and consent to the transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of your location data and location search queries by Apple and its partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based and road traffic-based products and services." It will also send your location to Apple when no app is requesting your location: "If Location Services is on, your iPhone will periodically send the geo-tagged locations of nearby Wi-Fi hotspots and cell towers in an anonymous and encrypted form to Apple, to be used for augmenting this crowd-sourced database of Wi-Fi hotspot and cell tower locations." Unlike on Android, you cannot get your location without sending this data to Apple: "To use features such as these, you must enable Location Services on your iPhone" https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056
asdf21 7y ago
Some people just also don't want to support Google, for various reasons.

Unlocking the bootloader, flashing TWRP, and installing LineageOS without Google Play Services is roughly equivalent in privacy to an iPhone. I wouldn’t blame my grandma for choosing to buy an iPhone instead!

lern_too_spel 7y ago
A phone with Google Play Services collects less data than an iPhone. To wit: Apple knows every app you ever downloaded, and there is nothing you can do about it. Every time you click on an address link, it sends the address to Apple, and there is nothing you can do about it. Any time an app looks up your GPS location, that location is sent to Apple, and there is nothing you can do about it. If you want to write apps for your own device, you need to give card details to Apple, and there is nothing you can do about it. A phone with Google Play services doesn't suffer from any of these problems.
- jdofaz 7y ago
  How do you stop Google Play services from sending your location to google without disabling Location Services?
  - lern_too_spel 7y ago
    If you disable Location Services, which is an option presented on initial setup of the device, apps can still request the GPS permission directly (the default behavior in most location libraries), not sending your location to Google. This is not possible on iOS. Every location lookup will send your location to Apple.
    - jdofaz 7y ago
      How do you know iOS sends all location lookups to Apple?
      - lern_too_spel 7y ago
        Because Apple says so. "By enabling Location Services for your devices, you agree and consent to the transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of your location data and location search queries by Apple and its partners and licensees to provide and improve location-based and road traffic-based products and services." It will also send your location to Apple when no app is requesting your location: "If Location Services is on, your iPhone will periodically send the geo-tagged locations of nearby Wi-Fi hotspots and cell towers in an anonymous and encrypted form to Apple, to be used for augmenting this crowd-sourced database of Wi-Fi hotspot and cell tower locations." Unlike on Android, you cannot get your location without sending this data to Apple: "To use features such as these, you must enable Location Services on your iPhone" https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207056

asdf21 7y ago

Some people just also don't want to support Google, for various reasons.